Agenda:

- review last 2 weeks
- open issues blocking release
- work on changelog
- discuss ddmd plans and 2H15 update
- eventually plan other work

So how's this working? Simply reply to this email? -- Andrei

On 7/25/15 8:33 AM, Martin Nowak via dmd-internals wrote:
> Agenda:
>
> - review last 2 weeks
> - open issues blocking release
> - work on changelog
> - discuss ddmd plans and 2H15 update
> - eventually plan other work
>
>
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On 07/28/2015 05:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> So how's this working? Simply reply to this email? -- Andrei

Yes, unless you come up with a better idea.
Let me start again.

> On 7/25/15 8:33 AM, Martin Nowak via dmd-internals wrote:
>> Agenda:
>>
>> - review last 2 weeks

We finally got some traction towards 2.068.0 and fixed most outstanding
blockers, thanks a lot Kenji and Walter. Unfortunately we only got a lot
of new bug reports with the second beta.
I guess it'll take a while to get used to more regular releases, but
it's a bit annoying to get another week or so delay b/c of little
testing of the first beta.

Trying to squeeze Unique/RefCounted into 2.068.0 was a bad idea. I spent several days on that (not working on the release), but the feature turned out much more complex b/c of attribute hell. https://trello.com/c/pTlDuyBD/16-finish-smartref-implementation

Let's please resist any temptation to add features in the last minute.
It'll only cause delays and we'll end up with something that wasn't
quite ready.
If something should make it into 2.069.0 you'll have to start now to
make that happen, not when the first beta get's released.
From now on I'll regularly announce/remind of the release schedules in
the newsgroup so that nobody gets surprised by a release.

>> - open issues blocking release

Way too many, please help to test the beta and file/reduce/fix bugs.

http://d.puremagic.com/issues/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bug_severity=regression&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

If you work on a bug, please assign it to yourself on Bugzilla or Trello (https://trello.com/b/XoFjxiqG/active) so that we avoid double efforts.

>> - work on changelog

As nobody takes responsibility for the changelog we need a mechanical solution IMO. I propose to create a CHANGELOG.md in the dmd/druntime/phobos repos and reject any PR that comes without an adequate explanation for D end users. This would also be an opportunity to improve the current changelog page (e.g. one page per release).

>> - discuss ddmd plans and 2H15 update

There've been some fruitful plans for ddmd. But I think we should not loose track of other priorities. A self-hosted compiler might help with dmd development and provide learning insights for the compiler devs, but this work doesn't improve D as a language or ecosystem in the short- to mid-term.

Looking at http://wiki.dlang.org/Vision/2015H1 it seems we're on track,
but then again we only made little progress on each point.
It might be necessary to reduce the number of priorities and derive
concrete stories to achieve them. This is even more mid-term planning
than vision.

>> - eventually plan other work

-Martin

On 07/28/2015 05:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> So how's this working? Simply reply to this email? -- Andrei

Is this story completed? If so, please archive the card. https://trello.com/c/YOBjBqxd/7-bring-std-experimental-allocator-ready-for-review

Done, thx. -- Andrei

On 7/28/15 6:35 PM, Martin Nowak via dmd-internals wrote:
> On 07/28/2015 05:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> So how's this working? Simply reply to this email? -- Andrei
>
> Is this story completed? If so, please archive the card.
> https://trello.com/c/YOBjBqxd/7-bring-std-experimental-allocator-ready-for-review
>
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