I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
included.

    I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and also
some tests I have written.

    Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode applications,
which limites a lot its utility.

    As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.

"Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

>     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
> Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
> included.
>
>     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and also
> some tests I have written.
>
>     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode applications,
> which limites a lot its utility.
>
>     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
> supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.

There is the sources isn't it ?
If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
Just it can take some time ..

roland

    Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl


"Roland" <rv@ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje news:3D7859B8.8F0EBAF9@ronetech.com...
>
>
> "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
>
> >     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
> > Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
> > included.
> >
> >     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and
also
> > some tests I have written.
> >
> >     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode
applications,
> > which limites a lot its utility.
> >
> >     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
> > supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.
>
> There is the sources isn't it ?
> If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
> Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
> Just it can take some time ..
>
> roland
>
>

"Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :

>     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl
>

got them.
just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if you
already know them):
- find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers, only
offset,
- find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need to
be converted.
most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h (bios,
video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000 (real
mode addresse)
most of the work will be to find those pointer.
the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..

roland







>
> "Roland" <rv@ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje news:3D7859B8.8F0EBAF9@ronetech.com...
> >
> >
> > "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
> >
> > >     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the Zinc
> > > Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0 libraries
> > > included.
> > >
> > >     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples, and
> also
> > > some tests I have written.
> > >
> > >     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode
> applications,
> > > which limites a lot its utility.
> > >
> > >     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2 also
> > > supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get it.
> >
> > There is the sources isn't it ?
> > If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
> > Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
> > Just it can take some time ..
> >
> > roland
> >
> >

    Thank you.
    I will try to hack them a bit. At least, in the meanwhile I find version
4.x!

"Roland" <rv@ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje news:3D788E9D.527BCDC4@ronetech.com...
>
>
> "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
>
> >     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl
> >
>
> got them.
> just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
> if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if
you
> already know them):
> - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers,
only
> offset,
> - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need
to
> be converted.
> most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h
(bios,
> video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
> also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000
(real
> mode addresse)
> most of the work will be to find those pointer.
> the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..
>
> roland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > "Roland" <rv@ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje news:3D7859B8.8F0EBAF9@ronetech.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
> > >
> > > >     I want to inform the group that  I have been able to use the
Zinc
> > > > Interface Library 3.0 with DMC 8.29 using the Zortech C++ 3.0
libraries
> > > > included.
> > > >
> > > >     I have been able to compile all the tutorial and the samples,
and
> > also
> > > > some tests I have written.
> > > >
> > > >     Unfortunatelly this version of ZIL only support real mode
> > applications,
> > > > which limites a lot its utility.
> > > >
> > > >     As far as I know, Zinc Application Framework 4.0, 4.1 and 4.2
also
> > > > supports protected mode applications, but I have been unable to get
it.
> > >
> > > There is the sources isn't it ?
> > > If yes, i will try to have a look on it.
> > > Changing it so that it works with DOSX may not be a big deal.
> > > Just it can take some time ..
> > >
> > > roland
> > >
> > >
>

Roland a écrit :

> "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
>
> >     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl
> >
>
> got them.
> just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
> if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry if you
> already know them):
> - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers, only
> offset,
> - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and need to
> be converted.
> most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h (bios,
> video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
> also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000 (real
> mode addresse)
> most of the work will be to find those pointer.
> the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..
>
> roland
>

i spend 2 hours on zinc.
not so easy it seems..

Javier, do you know where i can find a user manual ?

I would like DM can offer a kind of graphical library for DOS X. sure i will have a deeper look on zinc.. in the future

roland

    Here http://www.windriver.com/zinc/html/agreement.html you can download
Zinc 5.3 and 6.0, which include an user manual, althought does not support
DOS.


"Roland" <rv@ronetech.com> escribió en el mensaje news:3D7E32B0.74741325@ronetech.com...
>
>
> Roland a écrit :
>
> > "Javier Gutiérrez" a écrit :
> >
> > >     Yes, there are the sources available. You can get it at ftp.jak.nl
> > >
> >
> > got them.
> > just i have to copy them on a floppy to install and have a first look.
> > if you want to work to port zinc to DOSX here is some guidelines (sorry
if you
> > already know them):
> > - find pointer calculation: there is no more segment on DOSX pointers,
only
> > offset,
> > - find pointers returned by dos/bios: they are real mode pointers and
need to
> > be converted.
> > most of those pointer are passed to/returned by int 21h (dos), int 10h
(bios,
> > video, notably vesa), int 33h mouse.
> > also there must be somewhere a pointer on bios data area: 0x0040:0000
(real
> > mode addresse)
> > most of the work will be to find those pointer.
> > the good news is that if you forget one, it crash immédiately ..
> >
> > roland
> >
>
> i spend 2 hours on zinc.
> not so easy it seems..
>
> Javier, do you know where i can find a user manual ?
>
> I would like DM can offer a kind of graphical library for DOS X. sure i will have a deeper look on zinc.. in the future
>
> roland
>
>