June 08, 2003
Jan Knepper wrote:
> I *only* use spamcop for those email that are *SPAM*.
> Legitimate email never got blocked as spamcop only begins blocking after a
> certain treshold has been reached, at least I have never heard complaints
> about it...

I've never heard complaints from a user of SpamCop, to be fair. Only a person who had a newsletter stopped going to an entire domain because of SpamCop. Yet another note: I will admit that it is *possible* that the email in question was technically spam ... unfortunately, we can never know as no one would even *try* to opt out or followup the original opt in. In any case, I'm convinced that *if* the offender was guilty, it was unintentional.

Also, to be fair, I was once guilty of unintentionally running an open relay, but the 'good samaritan' that caught me at it was nice enough to remove me from their open relay database once I closed it. I do recognize that most of these people are good guys ... I'm just concerned when so many people on the net don't think through the potential problems of taking someone elses word on what is or is not a spamming IP.

> I agree. I just stated that spamcop provides a service, not that it is
> perfect ;-)

Fair enough. Apologies if I was offensive in any way. :)

</soapbox>

SDR

June 09, 2003
Scott Dale Robison wrote:

> I've never heard complaints from a user of SpamCop, to be fair. Only a person who had a newsletter stopped going to an entire domain because of SpamCop. Yet another note: I will admit that it is *possible* that the email in question was technically spam ... unfortunately, we can never know as no one would even *try* to opt out or followup the original opt in. In any case, I'm convinced that *if* the offender was guilty, it was unintentional.

Oh, I have seen those complaints MANY times. People that actually opted-in themselves and than in time get sick of SPAM, find spamcop and start reporting everything that comes into their mailbox not remembering wether or not they subscribed for it or not. Spamcop is very aware of this as well.

> Also, to be fair, I was once guilty of unintentionally running an open relay, but the 'good samaritan' that caught me at it was nice enough to remove me from their open relay database once I closed it. I do recognize that most of these people are good guys ... I'm just concerned when so many people on the net don't think through the potential problems of taking someone elses word on what is or is not a spamming IP.

The internet professionals are usually very tolerant and helpful, at least, that's my experience. What did you use? sendmail???

Well, that's exactly the problem with the Internet at this moment. It's like trying to drive your car on the hiway with people around you that do not have a license... <sigh>

> > I agree. I just stated that spamcop provides a service, not that it is perfect ;-)
>
> Fair enough. Apologies if I was offensive in any way. :)

Nag!

ManiaC++
Jan Knepper


June 10, 2003
Jan Knepper wrote:
> The internet professionals are usually very tolerant and helpful, at least,
> that's my experience. What did you use? sendmail???

I think I was running Xmail at the time, though I'm not 100% certain. It's been a long time...

SDR

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