On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 04:59:20 UTC, Hubert wrote:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oicmwoboku136jq/dlang_test_redesign.png

That does look quite nice. It may be a bit *too* minimalist, and the colours aren't right, but the design is solid.

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 04:59:18AM +0000, Hubert via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oicmwoboku136jq/dlang_test_redesign.png
> 
> My emphasis has been on creating a friendly first impression; a lightweight page to introduce newcomers to D and get them started quickly. I think this is a sane design approach when it comes to D's current position in the "market". I've not yet begun any work on the views for the documentation and similar pages with a larger amount of copy.
> 
> (I hope I haven't missed any earlier design proposal that already
> looks like this.)
[...]

Please don't take this personally, but frankly, I don't like this design. It's too minimalistic, the choice of color is too garish, and the logo looks amateurish. There is too much space in the center of the page, while squeezing the real information to the sides. I very much dislike the current splash page + "get started" / "learn more" trend, an anachronism from the 90's. It requires too much effort to get to the meat of the site, and serves little purpose except to fill up space. More navigation can be put on the front page without requiring inordinate amounts of clicks to reach (properly laid out, of course, to avoid clutter).

Having said that, though, I like the concept of putting the "convenience, power, efficiency" slogans in a prominent place, side by side. That's something far superior to the current layout we have, where most people won't even see everything until they scroll down.


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On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 12:09:38 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> It probably looks good as a landing page for a newcomers but I will annoyed with extra forced navigation very quick through daily usage of the web site. It sacrifices productivity in favor of good looks.

Hmm... I don't remember, when I last visited the front page, I don't even know, what it looks like. What one would need there and what productivity you plan to get there?

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 15:14:05 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 12:09:38 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>> It probably looks good as a landing page for a newcomers but I will annoyed with extra forced navigation very quick through daily usage of the web site. It sacrifices productivity in favor of good looks.
>
> Hmm... I don't remember, when I last visited the front page, I don't even know, what it looks like. What one would need there and what productivity you plan to get there?

I check various parts of documentation (not DDOC-generates Phobos part but manually written articles) on a regular basis. It is often faster to find via navigating then search query because term usage is spread all across.

> On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 04:59:20 UTC, Hubert wrote:
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/oicmwoboku136jq/dlang_test_redesign.png

This is a brilliant idea, except for the logo. We have one, and
with it an identity, and we should not loose it.

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 12:09:38 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> It probably looks good as a landing page for a newcomers but I will annoyed with extra forced navigation very quick through daily usage of the web site. It sacrifices productivity in favor of good looks.

There is too much links in our actual homepage, newcomers are
simply lost, we absolutely need to light it, to make it more
friendly.

The question is : is it more important to maintain your old
habits or to be welcoming and attractive for the new users ?

Don't forget that programmers are hipsters, and we need to take
care of our image.

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:12:38 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 12:09:38 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
>> It probably looks good as a landing page for a newcomers but I will annoyed with extra forced navigation very quick through daily usage of the web site. It sacrifices productivity in favor of good looks.
>
> There is too much links in our actual homepage, newcomers are
> simply lost, we absolutely need to light it, to make it more
> friendly.
>
> The question is : is it more important to maintain your old
> habits or to be welcoming and attractive for the new users ?
>
> Don't forget that programmers are hipsters, and we need to take
> care of our image.

I prefer to have my cake and eat it at the same time. There is no reason why it can't have better navigation while making important information highlighted and visually eye-catching.

Also please avoid personal insults :P

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:15:30 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> I prefer to have my cake and eat it at the same time. There is no reason why it can't have better navigation while making important information highlighted and visually eye-catching.

Of course :)

> Also please avoid personal insults :P

I wasn't insulting, my intention was to mention the fact that
this argument is not entirely a matter of productivity, but a
fear of change.

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:24:28 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote:
>> Also please avoid personal insults :P
>
> I wasn't insulting, my intention was to mention the fact that
> this argument is not entirely a matter of productivity, but a
> fear of change.

I was referring to "Don't forget that programmers are hipsters" statement ;)

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:12:38 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote:
> There is too much links in our actual homepage, newcomers are
> simply lost, we absolutely need to light it, to make it more
> friendly.

Also, please see this message :
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/euxbskjjoetrwrqtklqy@forum.dlang.org

It explains why we need a big red "get started" button to help
the newcomers. This person was not able to find relevant
informations on IDEs, despite our big stack of links on the
homepage. This is also a lack of productivity.

On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:31:45 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 August 2014 at 17:24:28 UTC, Théo Bueno wrote:
>>> Also please avoid personal insults :P
>>
>> I wasn't insulting, my intention was to mention the fact that
>> this argument is not entirely a matter of productivity, but a
>> fear of change.
>
> I was referring to "Don't forget that programmers are hipsters" statement ;)

Oh. Let me rephrase :
Don't forget that programmers are undeclared hipsters :D