On Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 00:05:55 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
> To summarize what I think are the best ideas so far:
>
> std.string
> ----------
>
>   Eager            Lazy
>   -----            ----
>   capitalize       capitalized
>   center           centered
>   detab            detabbed
>   entab            entabbed
>   format           formatted
>   leftJustify      leftJustified
>   munch            munched
>   outdent          outdented
>   removechars      charsRemoved
>   rightJustify     rightJustified
>   splitLines       (none, uses splitter)
>   squeeze          squeezed
>   strip            stripped
>   stripLeft        leftStripped
>   stripRight       rightStripped
>   succ             successor
>   toLower          lowercased
>   toStringz        nullTerminated
>   toUpper          uppercased
>   translate        translated
>   wrap             wrapped
>
> std.path
> --------
>
>   Eager                Lazy
>   -----                ----
>   absolutePath         absolutePathOf *
>   buildNormalizedPath  asNormalizedPath *
>   buildPath            asPath *
>   defaultExtension     withDefaultExtension *
>   dirName              dirNameOf *
>   driveName            driveNameOf *
>   expandTilde          tildeExpanded
>   relativePath         relativePathOf *
>   setExtension         withExtension
>   stripDrive           driveStripped
>   stripExtension       extensionStripped
>
> * - not terribly happy with these but I'd say it's the best of what's been proposed
>
> Generally it seems like past tense works when the function has a verb, "with" prefix when there is no verb but you are modifying something about the input, and "Of" suffix when you are pulling something out. Also, the verb should come last because it has a better ring to it.

I like this list.

19-Jul-2014 04:05, Brad Anderson пишет:
> To summarize what I think are the best ideas so far:
>
> std.string
> ----------
>
>    Eager            Lazy
>    -----            ----
>    capitalize       capitalized
>    center           centered
>    detab            detabbed
>    entab            entabbed
>    format           formatted
>    leftJustify      leftJustified
>    munch            munched
>    outdent          outdented
>    removechars      charsRemoved
>    rightJustify     rightJustified
>    splitLines       (none, uses splitter)
>    squeeze          squeezed
>    strip            stripped
>    stripLeft        leftStripped
>    stripRight       rightStripped
>    succ             successor
>    toLower          lowercased
>    toStringz        nullTerminated
>    toUpper          uppercased
>    translate        translated
>    wrap             wrapped
>
> std.path
> --------
>
>    Eager                Lazy
>    -----                ----
>    absolutePath         absolutePathOf *
>    buildNormalizedPath  asNormalizedPath *
>    buildPath            asPath *
>    defaultExtension     withDefaultExtension *
>    dirName              dirNameOf *
>    driveName            driveNameOf *
>    expandTilde          tildeExpanded
>    relativePath         relativePathOf *
>    setExtension         withExtension
>    stripDrive           driveStripped
>    stripExtension       extensionStripped
>
> * - not terribly happy with these but I'd say it's the best of what's
> been proposed
>
> Generally it seems like past tense works when the function has a verb,
> "with" prefix when there is no verb but you are modifying something
> about the input, and "Of" suffix when you are pulling something out.
> Also, the verb should come last because it has a better ring to it.

+1

-- 
Dmitry Olshansky

On Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 00:05:55 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
> To summarize what I think are the best ideas so far:
>
> std.string
> ----------
>
>   Eager            Lazy
>   -----            ----
>   capitalize       capitalized
>   center           centered
>   detab            detabbed
>   entab            entabbed
>   format           formatted
>   leftJustify      leftJustified
>   munch            munched
>   outdent          outdented
>   removechars      charsRemoved
>   rightJustify     rightJustified
>   splitLines       (none, uses splitter)
>   squeeze          squeezed
>   strip            stripped
>   stripLeft        leftStripped
>   stripRight       rightStripped
>   succ             successor
>   toLower          lowercased
>   toStringz        nullTerminated
>   toUpper          uppercased
>   translate        translated
>   wrap             wrapped
>
> std.path
> --------
>
>   Eager                Lazy
>   -----                ----
>   absolutePath         absolutePathOf *
>   buildNormalizedPath  asNormalizedPath *
>   buildPath            asPath *
>   defaultExtension     withDefaultExtension *
>   dirName              dirNameOf *
>   driveName            driveNameOf *
>   expandTilde          tildeExpanded
>   relativePath         relativePathOf *
>   setExtension         withExtension
>   stripDrive           driveStripped
>   stripExtension       extensionStripped
>
> * - not terribly happy with these but I'd say it's the best of what's been proposed
>
> Generally it seems like past tense works when the function has a verb, "with" prefix when there is no verb but you are modifying something about the input, and "Of" suffix when you are pulling something out. Also, the verb should come last because it has a better ring to it.

Do we really want to be naming functions which aren't properties with adjectives instead of verbs? That seems very wrong to me. I'd much rather see stuff like setExt or setExtLazy than withExtension or extensionSet. Function names are supposed to be verbs unless they're emulating variables. They _do_ something, even if it's lazy.

- Jonathan M Davis

On Sunday, 20 July 2014 at 10:19:10 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> Do we really want to be naming functions which aren't properties with adjectives instead of verbs?

Yes. We have parens for denoting functions.
Oh wait.

> Do we really want to be naming functions which aren't properties with adjectives instead of verbs? That seems very wrong to me. I'd much rather see stuff like setExt or setExtLazy than withExtension or extensionSet. Function names are supposed to be verbs unless they're emulating variables. They _do_ something, even if it's lazy.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

I think it is appropiate to use adjectives for lazy functions. The "Use verbs for functions"-rule holds no ground in lazy evaluation, except you want to call them "wrapInExtensionSetter" or something like that.

On Friday, 18 July 2014 at 20:35:33 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 7/18/2014 12:40 PM, Tourist wrote:
>> Are you planning to deprecate the non-lazy functions at some (maybe very
>> distant) point?
>
> No. Phobos has already gone through multiple rounds of renaming/deprecation, all at considerable disruption. Each one was supposed to be "worth it" and the "last time". It needs to stop.

Is an alternate module an option?  std.string.lazy, etc.