July 03, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to BCS | BCS wrote:
> We could do it in reverse; compile the GCC backend as a lib, and ship that and the minimal headers to Walter and then he could develop DMD with that without ever seeing a line of (executable) GCC code. He might even be able to build and ship both GCC and DMC versions of DMD.
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But GCC is GPL so merely linking against it automatically taints the code. Or is the current front end license GPL compatible?
--bb
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July 04, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Bill Baxter wrote:
> BCS wrote:
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>> We could do it in reverse; compile the GCC backend as a lib, and ship that and the minimal headers to Walter and then he could develop DMD with that without ever seeing a line of (executable) GCC code. He might even be able to build and ship both GCC and DMC versions of DMD.
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> But GCC is GPL so merely linking against it automatically taints the code. Or is the current front end license GPL compatible?
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> --bb
Yup. Dual license GPL/artistic. See dmd/src/dmd/gpl.txt
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July 04, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Bill Baxter schrieb:
> It's been talked about before, but exactly how much money do the people who own the copyright to DMD's backend want in order to make it freely available freely -- as at least a lib? It's hard to believe anyone would appraise that thing with a high dollar value given its less than stellar optimization abilities, and since everyone knows you can't make much money off dev tools these days anyway.
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> I'd happily chip in $100 US if it meant finally having an official D compiler that anyone can recompile for themselves just by typing "make dmd".
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> Or is it more a matter of not being able to find the copyright holders in question to ask them? If so, give us the names and whatever info you have, and I bet someone will be able to track 'em down.
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> --bb
Add 75 euro bjoern
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July 05, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Reply to Bill,
> BCS wrote:
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>> We could do it in reverse; compile the GCC backend as a lib, and ship
>> that and the minimal headers to Walter and then he could develop DMD
>> with that without ever seeing a line of (executable) GCC code. He
>> might even be able to build and ship both GCC and DMC versions of
>> DMD.
>>
> But GCC is GPL so merely linking against it automatically taints the
> code. Or is the current front end license GPL compatible?
>
> --bb
>
even so, wouldn't a .so/.dll get around that?
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July 05, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Bill Baxter wrote:
> It's been talked about before, but exactly how much money do the people who own the copyright to DMD's backend want in order to make it freely available freely -- as at least a lib? It's hard to believe anyone would appraise that thing with a high dollar value given its less than stellar optimization abilities, and since everyone knows you can't make much money off dev tools these days anyway.
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> I'd happily chip in $100 US if it meant finally having an official D compiler that anyone can recompile for themselves just by typing "make dmd".
>
> Or is it more a matter of not being able to find the copyright holders in question to ask them? If so, give us the names and whatever info you have, and I bet someone will be able to track 'em down.
>
> --bb
If it where just about money a donation button could be put on the digitalmars website and every other D website, with a target (whatever unreachable number that is). It would only transfer the amount across when that amount was reached.
I'd give 100.
-Joel
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July 12, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Bill Baxter wrote: > I'd happily chip in $100 US Because there are some and might be even more donators: http://www.fundable.com/ -manfred -- Maybe some knowledge of some types of disagreeing and their relation can turn out to be useful: http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/07/writing-strong-arguments/ |
July 12, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Manfred_Nowak | Manfred_Nowak wrote:
> Bill Baxter wrote:
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>> I'd happily chip in $100 US
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> Because there are some and might be even more donators:
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> http://www.fundable.com/
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> -manfred
That sounds pretty neat. Would be cooler if they made their money by advertising instead of taking a 10% cut. 10% seems like a lot for doing something that seems rather simple.
--bb
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July 13, 2008 Re: DMD back end dev-kit | ||||
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Posted in reply to Bill Baxter | Bill Baxter wrote: > 10% seems like a lot for doing something that seems rather simple. > They claim to be professionals and therefore are likely to know that simplicity, which may result in an openness for negotiation _before_ starting anything on their platform. Because they require goals as low as low 200$, close to 20$ should do for any amount. -manfred -- Maybe some knowledge of some types of disagreeing and their relation can turn out to be useful: http://blog.createdebate.com/2008/04/07/writing-strong-arguments/ |
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