Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

> std.stdio -> std.io
> 
> Rationale: stuttering sucks.
> 

Absolutely.

> BidirectionalRange -> DoublyEndedRange
> 
> Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in* either direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from either end.

It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:

"DuplexRange"

Keep up the awesome work Andre.

BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance that you or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation with a list of topics that could improve D would be great as a way to get Google Summer of Code resources allocated.

On 07/13/2010 11:30 AM, eris wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
>
>> std.stdio ->  std.io
>>
>> Rationale: stuttering sucks.
>>
>
> Absolutely.
>
>> BidirectionalRange ->  DoublyEndedRange
>>
>> Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in*
>> either direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from
>> either end.
>
> It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for
> something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's
> also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:
>
> "DuplexRange"
>
> Keep up the awesome work Andre.
>
> BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance
> that you or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation
> with a list of topics that could improve D would be great as a way to
> get Google Summer of Code resources allocated.

Google invited me for a talk via Benjamin Shropshire (thanks!). I am waiting for my manager's approval.

Andrei

On Jul 14, 10 00:30, eris wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:
>
>> std.stdio ->  std.io
>>
>> Rationale: stuttering sucks.
>>
>
> Absolutely.
>
>> BidirectionalRange ->  DoublyEndedRange
>>
>> Rationale: bidirectional suggests something that can move *in* either
>> direction, whereas in fact the range can be shortened from either end.
>
> It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:
>
> "DuplexRange"
>

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When one say "duplex" it's usually associated with telecommunication (half-duplex/full-duplex) or printing (duplex = two-sided).

And usually it's called "Double-ended" (as in Double-ended queue), not Doubly ended.
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> Keep up the awesome work Andre.
>
> BTW: D really needs some promotional work.  Would there be any chance that you or Walter could give a talk at Google?  A short presentation with a list of topics that could improve D would be great as a way to get Google Summer of Code resources allocated.
>

"eris" <jvburnes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1@digitalmars.com...
>
> It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:
>
> "DuplexRange"
>

I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe that's just me :)

Nick Sabalausky Wrote:

> "eris" <jvburnes@gmail.com> wrote in message news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1@digitalmars.com...
> >
> > It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:
> >
> > "DuplexRange"
> >
> 
> I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe that's just me :)
> 

Well everyone is going to have an opinion based on the usage of "Duplex" they are most familiar with.  Full duplex is actually redundant.  Duplex means double.  Half-Duplex ironically just means single or more properly simplex.

Duplex in comms means double ended communications or a communications channel that supports simultaneous communications in both directions.

Duplex in printing means printing from both sides.

I was just suggesting a neat and tidy term that when combined with Range means double-ended range.

If this is not what is meant then by all means suggest a more proper term for double-ended or double sided.  Could be there is a better term than any of those.

eris

On 13/07/2010 20:26, eris wrote:
> Nick Sabalausky Wrote:
>
>> "eris"<jvburnes@gmail.com>  wrote in message
>> news:i1i4bs$1c0e$1@digitalmars.com...
>>>
>>> It's an improvement, but I believe the proper English prefix for something
>>> that is doubly-reflective in that sense is "Duplex".  It's also easier and
>>> shorter to pronounce.  Say it with me now:
>>>
>>> "DuplexRange"
>>>
>>
>> I'm a native Englsh speaker, and if I saw something called "DuplexRange", my
>> first thought would be "Wait, is that full-duplex or half-duplex?" But maybe
>> that's just me :)
>>
>
> Well everyone is going to have an opinion based on the usage of "Duplex" they are most familiar with.  Full duplex is actually redundant.  Duplex means double.  Half-Duplex ironically just means single or more properly simplex.
>
> Duplex in comms means double ended communications or a communications channel that supports simultaneous communications in both directions.
>
> Duplex in printing means printing from both sides.
>
> I was just suggesting a neat and tidy term that when combined with Range means double-ended range.
>
> If this is not what is meant then by all means suggest a more proper term for double-ended or double sided.  Could be there is a better term than any of those.
>
> eris
>
>
>

To me, Half-Duplex != Simplex, as the former is two-way, but not simultaneously, as opposed to just single direction, but anyway...

DuplexRange.vote++;

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Dnia 14-07-2010 o 13:32:44 Alix Pexton <alix.DOT.pexton@gmail.dot.com> napisał(a):

> DuplexRange.vote++;

++vote

And it's already used for with similar meaning:
...can communicate with one another in both directions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duplex_(telecommunications)

Tomek