On 14-11-2012 21:36, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> On 11/14/12, Alex Rønne Petersen <alex@lycus.org> wrote:
>> Or we could switch to Phabricator for our entire review process which
>> has an absolutely awesome side-by-side diff and is generally a fantastic
>> tool for distributed-style software projects.
>>
>> See my email to dmd-internals:
>> http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/dmd-internals/2012-October/004900.html
>
> I don't see what's awesome about it, for one thing the code display
> pages don't seem to be static HTML (or whatever you call it), because
> every time I enter into codeview I have to wait a few seconds for all
> the code to render. For big changes it's annoying to having to wait so
> long. And if I hit the back button and forward again, it starts to
> re-render again and I have to wait again. Clicking the show context
> can take over 5 seconds to display, and then Firefox almost freezes
> because the CPU usage keeps spiking to 90%. Pretty lame if you ask me.

Cannot reproduce in both Firefox and Chrome; code view also loads instantaneously for me.

>
> It's also inconsistent, my font settings I've set in the control panel
> aren't applied everywhere.

You need to manually configure your monospaced font in Phabricator in your display preferences. Any other font that isn't being applied correctly is a bug. I don't know why they do it this way for monospaced font, but I don't find it to be a show stopper.

>
> And what is Arcanist, it seems it's betaware like msys, except much
> less tested on Windows? Quote: "NOTE: Windows support is relatively
> new and incomplete, file bugs when you run into issues." And you even
> need to install PHP to make it work.

From what I've heard, other Phabricator/Arcanist users have no trouble on Windows these days. The support was very alpha quality a while back, but it should be fine now.

(I don't actually know. I don't use Windows.)

>
> And then there are things like making the code block button
> automatically insert some sort of PHP/Ruby code. Does it even support
> D syntax in comments?

It's just some code to demonstrate how the syntax works. Hit delete once and it's gone (or just don't use that button at all; why would you?).

Yes, it does support D (it uses Pygments).

>
> The last thing we need now is to make the the barrier to entry for
> contributions skyrocket.
>

That seems like a bit of an exaggeration. Yes, it requires you to install a little extra software, but the end result is a much more manageable, human-friendly, and scalable review/audit system than GitHub.

-- 
Alex Rønne Petersen
alex@lycus.org
http://lycus.org

On 11/14/12 12:36 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
> On 11/14/12, Alex Rønne Petersen<alex@lycus.org>  wrote:
>> Or we could switch to Phabricator for our entire review process which
>> has an absolutely awesome side-by-side diff and is generally a fantastic
>> tool for distributed-style software projects.
>>
>> See my email to dmd-internals:
>> http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/dmd-internals/2012-October/004900.html
>
> I don't see what's awesome about it

Everything? :o)

Andrei

Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 11/14/12 12:36 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> On 11/14/12, Alex Rønne Petersen<alex@lycus.org>  wrote:
>>> Or we could switch to Phabricator for our entire review process which has an absolutely awesome side-by-side diff and is generally a fantastic tool for distributed-style software projects.
>>>
>>> See my email to dmd-internals: http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/dmd-internals/2012-
October/004900.html
>>
>> I don't see what's awesome about it
> 
> Everything? :o)

Yes, from the featurelist Phabricator looks pretty awesome. And I'm suffering again about an interesting piece of software written in the language of my nightmares: PHP

Of course that's only my personal windmill I'm fighting. I just wanted to mention Gerrit Code Review: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_%28software%29

I'm in the process of packaging Gerrit for Debian, but this won't be ready before 2013. You can of course install Gerrit with upstreams .war file.

Regards, Thomas Koch

On 15-11-2012 08:35, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 11/14/12 12:36 PM, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>>> On 11/14/12, Alex Rønne Petersen<alex@lycus.org>  wrote:
>>>> Or we could switch to Phabricator for our entire review process which
>>>> has an absolutely awesome side-by-side diff and is generally a fantastic
>>>> tool for distributed-style software projects.
>>>>
>>>> See my email to dmd-internals:
>>>> http://lists.puremagic.com/pipermail/dmd-internals/2012-
> October/004900.html
>>>
>>> I don't see what's awesome about it
>>
>> Everything? :o)
>
> Yes, from the featurelist Phabricator looks pretty awesome. And I'm
> suffering again about an interesting piece of software written in the
> language of my nightmares: PHP
>
> Of course that's only my personal windmill I'm fighting. I just wanted to
> mention Gerrit Code Review:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_%28software%29
>
> I'm in the process of packaging Gerrit for Debian, but this won't be ready
> before 2013. You can of course install Gerrit with upstreams .war file.
>
> Regards, Thomas Koch
>

Pick your poison: PHP or Java. ;)

*flees*

-- 
Alex Rønne Petersen
alex@lycus.org
http://lycus.org

14.11.2012 19:27, Denis Shelomovskij пишет:
> P.S.
> Looks like Github's owners doesn't care at all about current users, only
> abut needless features and GUI glance to involve new ones because
> otherwise I have no explanation of this sad situation.

OK, probably Github isn't that bad as it helps some single Japanese:

https://github.com/norinori2222/boyfriend_require/blob/master/README-en.md

But it's still not for programmers...

-- 
Денис В. Шеломовский
Denis V. Shelomovskij

On 11/14/12, Alex Rønne Petersen <alex@lycus.org> wrote:
> You need to manually configure your monospaced font in Phabricator in your display preferences.

I did again and using latest Chrome. I can set font settings from the the code diff via View Options -> Configure Editor, but no matter what font I type in and click save it doesn't change the diff font.

Here's what the diff looks like: http://i.imgur.com/TGArz.png

That font is Arial, and it stays that way no matter what I put in the font settings. And in another view I a different font is rendered: http://i.imgur.com/RClAS.png

Might just be a bug. Btw, what does "Clowncopterize" and "Cook the books" mean? I hate software that tries to act cute. It also doesn't have a good folder tree view, files and folders are intermixed. But maybe there's a setting for this somewhere..

Anyway all of that is nitpicking, I don't want to be negative towards this software if it would actually make us review and merge pulls faster. SVN->Github was a win, maybe this would be one too.. I have no experience using Phabricator so I don't know. From a first look it seemed complicated compared to Github, maybe with time it would grow on me.