On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote:
>> Lack of production quality tools
>
> like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so you will look busy for your boss.

Why do you use D then? C++ already exists and you can do anything in it. Oh, D is more convenient and robust? Well, "Refactoring" is more convenient and robust than sed -i 's/.../.../g'.

On Thursday, 28 July 2016 at 11:41:49 UTC, burjui wrote:
> Why do you use D then?
it is fun.

> Oh, D is more convenient and robust?
no, it is more fun.

> "Refactoring" is more convenient and robust than sed -i 's/.../.../g'.
ues, using specialised tools to do useless work can be counted as "better thing".

On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote:
>> Lack of production quality tools
>
> like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so you will look busy for your boss.

Do you ever get tired of your ego? You know, evolution supports that people like you are a dying breed. How does that feel? I bet it makes you feel good? I bet  you live an awesome life, I don't know where you find time to stroke your ego so much though?

Why don't you go live in a cave? That way you don't use any tools like a computer, or a car, or electricity... cause those all just get in the way of what's really important.

Eagerly awaiting your response.



P.S., I have a prediction, that you won't response intelligently.

On Thursday, 28 July 2016 at 15:16:20 UTC, Gorge Jingale wrote:
> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:41:54 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 27 July 2016 at 10:39:52 UTC, NX wrote:
>>> Lack of production quality tools
>>
>> like? no, "refactoring" and other crap is not "production quality tools", they are only useful to pretend that you are doing something useful, so you will look busy for your boss.


Guys please, I'm just trying to do something constructive here.

On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already.
>
> Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more interesting and efficient than node.js for example.
>
> I agree that you have to be pragmatic and choose the right tools for the right jobs but I would be interested to have other opinion on thoses questions.

I think we need more frameworks like vibe.d to build things with them. Currently there is not much so only a class of programmers will find the language useful.

Another thing is that the language is not marketed well enough. Someone need to handle marketing of the language, like real marketing. Most people are still unaware of D.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 01:32:50 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
> On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 at 15:11:00 UTC, llaine wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I'm using D since a few month now and I was wondering why people don't jump onto it that much and why it isn't the "big thing" already.
>>
>> Everybody is into javascript nowadays, but IMO even for doing web I found Vibe.d more interesting and efficient than node.js for example.
>>
>> I agree that you have to be pragmatic and choose the right tools for the right jobs but I would be interested to have other opinion on thoses questions.
>
> I think we need more frameworks like vibe.d to build things with them. Currently there is not much so only a class of programmers will find the language useful.
>
> Another thing is that the language is not marketed well enough. Someone need to handle marketing of the language, like real marketing. Most people are still unaware of D.

The best marketing possible is pre-marketing in universities. For example in the 2000's Delphi was incredibly popular in Russia because the holder at this time (so Borland unless it was already Code Gear) sold literally **hundreds** of licenses to the russian education department. This is how it became so popular in Eastern Europe, despite of not being free.

The day D will be used to teach student programmation it could get popular. Unfortunately since the students that form the main frame of workers have short formation (typically 2 years) they are taught what's really used in the industry so Java, C++ + web languages, so that they're ready to program the same shit during 10 years, until they leave and reconvert.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:31:26 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
> For example in the 2000's Delphi was incredibly popular in Russia because the holder at this time (so Borland unless it was already Code Gear) sold literally **hundreds** of licenses to the russian education department.

actually, no. nobody ever bothers to buy licenses at all. delphi was popular due to teachers mostly know nothing except pascal, so using turbo pascal, then borland pascal, then delphi was the logical choice. believe me, it had nothing to do with licensing, you hardly ever find legal, non-pirated delphi version there.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:46:11 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 11:31:26 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>> For example in the 2000's Delphi was incredibly popular in Russia because the holder at this time (so Borland unless it was already Code Gear) sold literally **hundreds** of licenses to the russian education department.
>
> actually, no. nobody ever bothers to buy licenses at all. delphi was popular due to teachers mostly know nothing except pascal, so using turbo pascal, then borland pascal, then delphi

Your stupid. This is a well known fact.

https://www.quora.com/I-have-been-told-that-Russians-are-the-best-in-computer-programming-Why-is-that-Which-programming-language-do-they-use-Do-they-use-the-same-languages-that-we-use-or-do-they-use-something-totally-different/answer/Dmitry-Popov-6

http://delphihaters0.blogspot.com/2011/02/delphi-in-russia.html

PPL using pirated copies is another story. I speak well about what was setup in the universities themselves, you know... in the computer rooms.

> was the logical choice. believe me, it had nothing to do with licensing, you hardly ever find legal, non-pirated delphi version there.

You remind me that an idiot has open-sourced the keygen on GitHub. Don't know if it's still there.

By the way aren't you czech Ketmar ?

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:

it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.

also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>
> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>
> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.

Fucking schyzo ;)
Have you took your little pills today ?