Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/

On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
> Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/

Thats the reason why mozila invented Rust programming language.

On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
> Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/

Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.

On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 18:33:31 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/
>
> Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.

D is currently, as I understand it, merging the good parts of rust with everything great about D. Makes it compelling...as long these goodies become well know.

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 06:33:31PM +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
> > Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/
> 
> Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.

Notable from the article is that both Microsoft and Google are seriously looking into alternative programming languages.  I think we're looking at the beginning of the end of the long reign of C/C++ in the programming landscape. Maybe in about 20-30 years' time C/C++ will become relics in the dustbin of history...


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No! I'm not in denial!

On Sunday, 24 May 2020 at 14:38:54 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 06:33:31PM +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> > Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/
>> 
>> Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.
>
> Notable from the article is that both Microsoft and Google are seriously looking into alternative programming languages.  I think we're looking at the beginning of the end of the long reign of C/C++ in the programming landscape. Maybe in about 20-30 years' time C/C++ will become relics in the dustbin of history...
>
>
> T

no, C,C++ will exist if general D can not be used for MCU, rust is trying to do these things, but it seems even rust is too heavy(both the syntax and footprint).

On 5/23/2020 10:41 AM, welkam wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/ 
>>
> 
> Thats the reason why mozila invented Rust programming language.

Which is why D has invented @live functions.

On 5/23/2020 11:33 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/ 
>>
> 
> Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.

It doesn't fix use-after-free. Enter @live functions.

On Monday, 25 May 2020 at 01:35:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 5/23/2020 11:33 AM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
>> Garbage collection
>
> It doesn't fix use-after-free. Enter @live functions.

With garbage collection, references have infinite lifetime, so use after free is impossible.

D doesn't GC everything though, since it has pointers to stack objects and C things, but when you DO use the GC, use-after-free is not a worry.

On Sunday, 24 May 2020 at 14:38:54 UTC, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 06:33:31PM +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote:
>> On Saturday, 23 May 2020 at 17:34:21 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> > Yeah, https://www.zdnet.com/article/chrome-70-of-all-security-bugs-are-memory-safety-issues/
>> 
>> Garbage collection and array bounds checks fixes the majority of those with no special effort, so I am sure the numbers are different for most D programs.
>
> Notable from the article is that both Microsoft and Google are seriously looking into alternative programming languages.  I think we're looking at the beginning of the end of the long reign of C/C++ in the programming landscape. Maybe in about 20-30 years' time C/C++ will become relics in the dustbin of history...
>
>
> T

It will still take ages, Google and Microsoft are also heavyweights on ISO C++, and collaborating on C++ lifetime analysis and C++ Core Guidelines.

Hence Project Verona and Checked C from Microsoft as well.