Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?

PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for DUB on ecosystem ?

Because a Dub forum already exists:

http://forum.rejectedsoftware.com/groups/rejectedsoftware.dub/

Granted, since both forum sites speak the same protocol (NNTP), we have an opportunity to bridge them.

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for DUB on ecosystem ?
>
> Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?
>
> PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.

Thanks for mentioning this. I've often thought that DUB should have its own forum header here. Usually, people post "[DUB] Question" on D.learn. I think DUB should definitely be discussed here as a D citizen in its own right, also to avoid misunderstandings between the D leadership and DUB developers henceforth.

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 11:00:54 UTC, Chris wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 10:31:55 UTC, Luis wrote:
>> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for DUB on ecosystem ?
>>
>> Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one that looks that no body uses ?
>>
>> PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.
>
> Thanks for mentioning this. I've often thought that DUB should have its own forum header here. Usually, people post "[DUB] Question" on D.learn. I think DUB should definitely be discussed here as a D citizen in its own right, also to avoid misunderstandings between the D leadership and DUB developers henceforth.

Yeah. I asked some DUB question a week ago.

On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for
> DUB on ecosystem ?
>
> Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to
> talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one
> that looks that no body uses ?
>
> PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.

I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.

I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any discussions on other groups. The fact that other groups have little discussion is likely evidence that having other groups isn't helping questioners reach answers.

I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and don't know where to post my question. I hate that.

-Steve

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.

+1

People are too quick to try to compartmentalize everything. It should only be done when the volume becomes a problem.

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 17:18:26 UTC, Brad Anderson wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.
>
> +1
>
> People are too quick to try to compartmentalize everything. It should only be done when the volume becomes a problem.

Renaming DWT to GUIs, would be less "compartmentalized", not ? I think that have more sense, as looks that every body is using GtkD, TkD or dlangui

On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
>> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for
>> DUB on ecosystem ?
>>
>> Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to
>> talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one
>> that looks that no body uses ?
>>
>> PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just works.
>
> I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.
>
> I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any discussions on other groups. The fact that other groups have little discussion is likely evidence that having other groups isn't helping questioners reach answers.
>
> I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and don't know where to post my question. I hate that.
>
> -Steve

While I agree in general, the problem is that DUB has a dedicated forum "far away" from this forum. Sometimes, when people have a question, they don't know where to post it. Here or on the dedicated D forum run by Sönke. Now that DUB has become part of "official D", wouldn't it make sense to tie it in a bit better? Also, DUB questions are more frequent than GDC or LDC questions (not to mention DWT).

On 12/2/15 5:03 AM, Chris wrote:
> On Tuesday, 1 December 2015 at 14:45:04 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On 12/1/15 5:31 AM, Luis wrote:
>>> Being DUB very important for D language... why there isn't an entry for
>>> DUB on ecosystem ?
>>>
>>> Also, looks that DWT isn't very active. Not should be a "GUI" entry to
>>> talk about GtkD, TkD and other GUI toolkits, instead focusing on one
>>> that looks that no body uses ?
>>>
>>> PD: I don't know the true state of DWT, but GtkD and TkD simply just
>>> works.
>>
>> I would discourage adding any more groups. I don't really get the
>> point of having so many groups, if you have a question, use the main
>> group or the learn group. That is where all of us are paying attention.
>>
>> I (and I presume many other D veterans) wouldn't see any discussions
>> on other groups. The fact that other groups have little discussion is
>> likely evidence that having other groups isn't helping questioners
>> reach answers.
>>
>> I frequently go to a site with many categories for groups, and don't
>> know where to post my question. I hate that.
>>
>
> While I agree in general, the problem is that DUB has a dedicated forum
> "far away" from this forum. Sometimes, when people have a question, they
> don't know where to post it. Here or on the dedicated D forum run by
> Sönke. Now that DUB has become part of "official D", wouldn't it make
> sense to tie it in a bit better? Also, DUB questions are more frequent
> than GDC or LDC questions (not to mention DWT).

I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or LDC questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see messages here as well.

-Steve

On Thursday, 3 December 2015 at 13:20:43 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
> I see no problem with asking dub questions (or DWT or GDC or LDC questions) on this forum or d.learn. Sönke will see messages here as well.

I think it's more that having a dedicated forum lowers the threshold for asking and makes it easier for users to browse for answers in existing threads. In the d.learn and d.general topics get buried real fast.

It also makes Dub more official. I think all the "official D" parts ought to be integrated in the main site. Less confusing for newbies who try to figure out what tech they should get started with.