October 26, 2015
On Monday, 26 October 2015 at 05:34:05 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> writes:
>
>> On 10/18/15 7:55 AM, Joakim wrote:
>>> Now, the download page has not traditionally listed alphas and betas. But the importance of mobile is so high that I think it is worth it to do so, with the appropriate cautions about alpha quality.
>>
>> Yes, very much so. Please make that happen. Thanks! -- Andrei
>
> I think it makes sense to add a link to the LDC iOS releases in http://wiki.dlang.org/Compilers.  Perhaps a row for iOS in table "Package and/or binary availability, by platform and compiler".
>
> I am not sure it belongs on http://dlang.org/download.html though until somebody besides me has reported success using D in an iOS App.
>
> How should I proceed?

Hi Dan,

Regardless of what happens on http://dlang.org/download.html, please add it to the wiki. I've been chasing after compiler hackers to update the wiki with very little success (and then they complain how their projects are not getting enough attention etc.).

October 26, 2015
On 10/25/2015 11:05 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> I've been chasing after compiler hackers to update the wiki with very
> little success (and then they complain how their projects are not getting enough
> attention etc.).

Yeah, that's a perennial problem.

October 27, 2015
Vladimir Panteleev <thecybershadow.lists@gmail.com> writes:

> On Monday, 26 October 2015 at 05:34:05 UTC, Dan Olson wrote:
>> I think it makes sense to add a link to the LDC iOS releases in http://wiki.dlang.org/Compilers.  Perhaps a row for iOS in table "Package and/or binary availability, by platform and compiler".

(snip)

> Regardless of what happens on http://dlang.org/download.html, please add it to the wiki. I've been chasing after compiler hackers to update the wiki with very little success (and then they complain how their projects are not getting enough attention etc.).

Done
October 28, 2015
On 10/13/2015 12:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 10/13/2015 6:36 AM, Daniel Kozak wrote:
>> lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
>>
>> Maybe we could have something similar in D community
>
> No. People who need to be told what decent behavior is won't pay attention to
> such a document.

Apparently I'm in good company:

"trying to come up with some ‘code of conduct’ that says that people should be ‘respectful’ and ‘polite’ is just so much crap and bullshit”

   -- Linus Torvalds, https://gumroad.com/l/prQdM#
October 28, 2015
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 08:36:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 10/13/2015 12:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 10/13/2015 6:36 AM, Daniel Kozak wrote:
>>> lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
>>>
>>> Maybe we could have something similar in D community
>>
>> No. People who need to be told what decent behavior is won't pay attention to
>> such a document.
>
> Apparently I'm in good company:
>
> "trying to come up with some ‘code of conduct’ that says that people should be ‘respectful’ and ‘polite’ is just so much crap and bullshit”
>
>    -- Linus Torvalds, https://gumroad.com/l/prQdM#

Adding Linus to a discussion about Codes of Conduct is not so much opening a can of worms as upending a barrel of snakes.
October 28, 2015
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 08:36:07 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 10/13/2015 12:13 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> On 10/13/2015 6:36 AM, Daniel Kozak wrote:
>>> lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2015-October/091218.html
>>>
>>> Maybe we could have something similar in D community
>>
>> No. People who need to be told what decent behavior is won't pay attention to such a document.
>
> Apparently I'm in good company:
>
> "trying to come up with some ‘code of conduct’ that says that people should be ‘respectful’ and ‘polite’ is just so much crap and bullshit”
>
>    -- Linus Torvalds, https://gumroad.com/l/prQdM#

You are not in good company tho. Even the page you link to says
nobody else could or should say stuff like that.

And attitudes like that will only disurage people from trying to
improve this community.

http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38136.html

These are different times.

Cheers, Jakob.
October 28, 2015
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 09:12:55 UTC, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
> You are not in good company tho. Even the page you link to says
> nobody else could or should say stuff like that.
>

Quick, call the thought police !

> And attitudes like that will only disurage people from trying to
> improve this community.
>

War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, censorship is improvement.

> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38136.html
>
> These are different times.
>

Yup, professional victim use to not be a viable career path.

October 28, 2015
On 10/28/2015 2:12 AM, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
> You are not in good company tho. Even the page you link to says
> nobody else could or should say stuff like that.
>
> And attitudes like that will only disurage people from trying to
> improve this community.
>
> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38136.html
>
> These are different times.

I did not mean that absence of a Code of Conduct is license to abuse others. Just that a CoC is itself insulting, paternalistic, and not a solution.

October 28, 2015
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 17:13:27 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 09:12:55 UTC, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
>> You are not in good company tho. Even the page you link to says
>> nobody else could or should say stuff like that.
>>
>
> Quick, call the thought police !
>
>> And attitudes like that will only disurage people from trying to
>> improve this community.
>>
>
> War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, censorship is improvement.
>
>> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
>> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38136.html
>>
>> These are different times.
>>
>
> Yup, professional victim use to not be a viable career path.

We just need PC Principle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZQED7bLhw
October 28, 2015
On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 17:38:49 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 17:13:27 UTC, deadalnix wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 28 October 2015 at 09:12:55 UTC, Jakob Bornecrantz wrote:
>>> You are not in good company tho. Even the page you link to says
>>> nobody else could or should say stuff like that.
>>>
>>
>> Quick, call the thought police !
>>
>>> And attitudes like that will only disurage people from trying to
>>> improve this community.
>>>
>>
>> War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, censorship is improvement.
>>
>>> http://sarah.thesharps.us/2015/10/05/closing-a-door/
>>> https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/38136.html
>>>
>>> These are different times.
>>>
>>
>> Yup, professional victim use to not be a viable career path.
>
> We just need PC Principle
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ZQED7bLhw

You PC, bro?