On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>>> *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
>>
>> Started happening more in recent weeks.
>>
>> I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
> 
> It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
> 

Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM

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Mike Wey

On 21-04-17 19:03, Mike Wey wrote:
> On 04/21/2017 10:27 AM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> On Thursday, 20 April 2017 at 23:37:25 UTC, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>>>> *Looks* like a server/network issue but behaves like a screwy local issue.
>>>
>>> Started happening more in recent weeks.
>>>
>>> I don't select automatic checking for messages. I just click on a newsgroup and it fails at differing rates. (Pretty good in the last couple of days.) When it fails, for me the cure is to click on another D newsgroup to make a successful connection and then come back to the failed one; then it always succeeds.
>>
>> It would be helpful if someone could record a packet capture log (e.g. with Wireshark) of the problem. The information therein could be the first step towards diagnosing the problem.
>>
> 
> Ok, here is an Wireshark export of the error and a few successful packets beforehand. Hopefully this gives some insight in whats going on.
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6DxRRR3v-n9QzhtZmNEbUQzWmM
>

The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a Thunderbird issue.

Is anybody getting the errors with a different client?

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Mike Wey

On 08/01/2017 09:58 AM, Mike Wey wrote:

> The errors seem to be getting more frequent lately. But i nog also get
> these errors on the GtkD newsgroup (vibenews) so it might be a
> Thunderbird issue.
>
> Is anybody getting the errors with a different client?
>

Is there a better (lightweight, more stable, etc.) Thunderbird? A couple of weeks ago it could not open my Yahoo Inbox any more, so I had to add my account again.

Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs already. :/

Ali

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs already. :/
[...]

I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it.  There's a version/patch floating around somewhere that has built-in NNTP support, but IME it's a little klunky with high-traffic newsgroups.  I just use the mailing list interface to the D forums, and things work perfectly.

The best part of using Mutt is that it has full threading support, so if a particular topic doesn't interest you, you can delete the entire (sub)thread with a single keystroke.  Indispensible for handling busy forums like this one.


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Sylpheed?

On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 04:58:43PM -0700, H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 03:50:02PM -0700, Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d wrote: [...]
> > Perhaps I should get used to reading news and email with Emacs already. :/
> [...]
> 
> I've been using Mutt for years, and quite happy with it.
+1  for Mutt.  davmail (for  exchange)+offlineimap make  for a  terrific
combination (though  it takes  a day to  work through  configuration and
setup)