On Monday, 22 May 2017 at 09:13:22 UTC, Mike B Johnson wrote:
> You should ask yourself that question, seriously. You started with your condescending ego based remark about how ! is yelling, when it is not! THIS IS YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> Which, in fact, it is not because no sound was made. But because of your need to be treated as an authority you pretend to know something and then run around trying to enforce some imaginary law that you have self appointed yourself the judge, jury, and executioner.
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> Then, because you think you are intelligent you try to pretend further to hold some imaginary high ground because you are born from the loins of Jesus himself and the rest of us heathens are too stupid to get it.
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> My suggestion, go back to acting school. Whatever you are doing isn't working.

Instead of actually commenting on the topic, you seem to keep focusing on a misunderstanding that everybody got over the a long time ago.

All you do is make people feel unwelcome, that seems to be your goal.

1. Statement
2. Misunderstanding
3. Fixed << It ended here
4. << Your troll comment
5. << My response
6. << Several days later your troll comment again
7. This respond to Troll

As stated before. Good compiler, weak eco system and some nasty individuals. It seems that you missed my point about "inviting" community.

Any normal community will have a moderator that by now removed the clearly trolling attempts.

I on the other hand have been using my time productive, trying to figure out where those issue come from as it was impossible to reproduce the same issue ( VSC ) on a system. But, its clear i do not need to wast my time any more feeding the trolls here.

All:
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Sure, it started because of my mistake and i take full responsibility and it was resolved but i will not deal with this attitude any more.

And for the people that wonder why D is not more popular. No offense but when you have  people like that lurking around and you do not use moderators to deal with them, its difficult for anybody to ever feel welcome.
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Mike:
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So, Mike you win, happy now. Probably not because i expect you will post some other nasty responds soon how its all my fault.

You got your wish. Uninstalling D / VSC plugin / Jetbrain plugin and will moving to a more open and moderated community.
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Peace out to the rest of the community and frankly... Good luck!

I am sorry for your experience here. I am unaware of any contributions from him in the past. He appears to be pretty new here. We generally try not to respond to such posts telling people to quit it until it really is well past this point. It is expected that you ignore them. Once you start banning + deleting non-spam its a real slippery slope.

Everybody has bad days and sometimes telling them to quit is not a good thing.

Yes you came on a bit strong (this is fine) in the beginning but you raised excellent points of problems in our ecosystem.

We recently moved dcd, dscanner and dfmt under a community run organization to help maintain these code bases. I am part of this organization, I will have a chat with HackerPilot (author) to see if there is anything we can do to aid packaging.

On Monday, 22 May 2017 at 12:04:39 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:

> Once you start banning + deleting non-spam its a real slippery slope.

This is an argument I've never understood. Seems to be dominant here. Not banning and deleting is a slippery slope.

On 22.05.2017 16:31, bachmeier wrote:
> On Monday, 22 May 2017 at 12:04:39 UTC, rikki cattermole wrote:
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>> Once you start banning + deleting non-spam its a real slippery slope.
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> This is an argument I've never understood.

First, _this not a significant problem around here_. The forum self-moderates reasonably well.

That said:

Ignoring trolls is both effective and convenient. Why would anyone be affected by what such a person posts in the first place? Their thoughts have no relevance as they lack maturity. Therefore, all they do is waste a tiny little bit of time now and then.

Moderation also wastes time, and it is not actually easy to do well.

> Seems to be dominant here.

It's part of the reason why I'm here. Attacking someone personally for supposedly being hostile is a great way to derail a technical discussion. It's a popular trolling strategy.

The way it has worked here so far is that if you are not able to give someone the benefit of the doubt, you simply ignore them.

> Not banning and deleting is a slippery slope.

If you use a newsgroup reader, you can block people's posts at will.
Why does there need to be a central authority? It's just overhead.

As soon as such an authority is established, people will try to move the line around and argue about definitions of fuzzy terms in order to get the central authority to ban precisely the set of posts they do not like. This is not a productive use of the forums.

Also, aggressive moderation does not necessarily solve a problem. People can simply get more sensitive (e.g. they will get offended about trivialities such as exclamation marks and other unreliable cues) and then newcomers, whose first language is not necessarily English, need to learn arbitrary rules in order to be treated respectfully.

On 22 May 2017 at 18:56, qznc via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com
> wrote:

> On Thursday, 18 May 2017 at 05:43:48 UTC, Manu wrote:
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>> On 17 May 2017 at 00:51, Benro via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
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>> [...]
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>>> 4 Hours work. Discouraged and gave up after this.
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>> Visual Studio proper is the only IDE that 'just works' well, VisualD is
>> very good.
>> MonoDevelop also has good 'just works' support last I checked, but
>> debugging is much better in Visual Studio.
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> We could use a more precise statement than "just works".
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I said: "'just works' well"...
It's a deliberately imprecise statement. For me, it means, it didn't
require ANY action from me to make it work, and it 'just works' well enough
that I rarely think about it; it tends to do what I expect, when I expect
it to, as compared to other industry standard tooling. Since this is a
Visual Studio plugin, it is being measured against the VC++ and C#
experiences.