First beta for the 2.075.1 point release.

This version resolves a few regressions and bugs in the 2.075.0 release.

This release does not ship with the dman tool due to an unresolved issue. Let us know whether and how you use that tool, so we can evaluate whether it's worth fixing.

http://dlang.org/download.html#dmd_beta http://dlang.org/changelog/2.075.1.html

Please report any bugs at https://issues.dlang.org

-Martin

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 08:41:15 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> This release does not ship with the dman tool due to an unresolved issue.

What's the problem with dman?

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Vladimir Panteleev via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 08:41:15 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>
>> This release does not ship with the dman tool due to an unresolved issue.
>>
>
> What's the problem with dman?
>
>

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731

Thanks. I've submitted a fix.

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731
>
> Thanks. I've submitted a fix.

Thanks, considering https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 15:45:45 UTC, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 14:57:58 UTC, Daniel Kozak wrote:
>>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17731
>>
>> Thanks. I've submitted a fix.
>
> Thanks, considering https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.

How about putting dman on DUB instead then? Acquiring the d-man.json could be tricky, but if not done already, we could build it by default on dlang.org and then simply fetch it in the preBuildSteps

On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Thanks, considering https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.

dman is awesome! I did not use it because I did not know!

On Wednesday, 9 August 2017 at 15:35:12 UTC, Ulrich Küttler wrote:
> On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 at 20:32:34 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>> Thanks, considering https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17569 I'd still say we should evaluate whether we want to continue maintaining and shipping a tool with unclear usefulness and userbase.
>
> dman is awesome! I did not use it because I did not know!

I guessed that would happen, doesn't resolve the name conflicts though.
Does it provide enough value over the website search?
Try dman 2.074.0, opens http://dlang.org/changelog/2.019.html#2.074.0.
Also not a good replacement for DCD like docs-in-IDE integration.

What about dman as dub package? For sure we could upload d.tag/d-tags.json to the website.

While I personally find the tool nice, I never ended up using it much, because it requires you to know what you're searching for. No fuzzy search, no overview, etc.

So in the end the search bar works much better for me.

On Thursday, 10 August 2017 at 17:24:41 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Try dman 2.074.0, opens http://dlang.org/changelog/2.019.html#2.074.0.

That would be a bug. It extends to the generated CHM's index as well, so we should fix it.

> So in the end the search bar works much better for me.

If dman doesn't find the exact thing you're looking for, it falls back to a Google search, which is what the website search uses as well.

On 8/10/2017 10:24 AM, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Does it provide enough value over the website search?

I use it all the time, because it gets me where I want to go from the command line. Opening a browser, browsing to dlang.org, clickety-clicking around takes much longer.

Worse, the site search rarely gets me where I want to go.


> While I personally find the tool nice, I never ended up using it much, because it requires you to know what you're searching for.

It could use all of the runtime library functions added to the index, instead of just a smattering.