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Posted in reply to Nick Sabalausky | On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 07:50:30PM -0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > "Alex Rønne Petersen" <xtzgzorex@gmail.com> wrote in message news:jnv2c1$319r$2@digitalmars.com... > > > > As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages anywhere unless you explicitly tell it to. :( [...] I'm skeptical of all GUI-based mail clients. But that's just me. :-) > Outlook Express does ;) [...] Ewww!! T -- It is widely believed that reinventing the wheel is a waste of time; but I disagree: without wheel reinventers, we would be still be stuck with wooden horse-cart wheels. |
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Posted in reply to Nick Sabalausky | On 04-05-2012 01:50, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > "Alex Rønne Petersen"<xtzgzorex@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:jnv2c1$319r$2@digitalmars.com... >> >> As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages anywhere >> unless you explicitly tell it to. :( >> > > Outlook Express does ;) > > I try to stay away from Windows. :P -- - Alex |
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Posted in reply to Alex Rønne Petersen | On 5/3/2012 3:54 PM, Alex Rønne Petersen wrote:
> I use Thunderbird too, and one of my messages actually *did* get lost. I wrote
> the message, hit send, and then right after it "finished" sending the message,
> an NG error popped up and the message was lost.
>
> As far as I can see, Thunderbird doesn't save sent NNTP messages anywhere unless
> you explicitly tell it to. :(
TB saves all sent messages in the "Sent" folder. It has happened a couple times that a n.g. posting got lost in transit, and I'd just get a copy from the Sent folder and resubmit it.
I have never lost a message with TB. It's usually in the Sent or the Drafts folder.
I suggest checking your TB options, and make sure to check the box about automatically saving a copy of sent messages.
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Posted in reply to Walter Bright | Le jeudi 03 mai 2012 à 15:47 -0700, Walter Bright a écrit :
> On 5/3/2012 1:52 PM, deadalnix wrote:
> > It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your message is lost ».
>
> Youch. I didn't realize that was happening. I post from Thunderbird, and if it fails you just try it again.
>
> Anyhow, thanks to Jan Knepper for hosting us and figuring out a solution.
Works fine too, with Evolution
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On 05/03/2012 10:50 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth
> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are
> working with our provider to fix these issues.
Out of curiosity, can we get some numbers on the number of concurrent users that are causing the problems? I'm surprised that a modern machine would have trouble keeping up with newsgroup traffic. I figure it is either broken software or the machine is actually busy doing something else.
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Posted in reply to H. S. Teoh | On Thu, 03 May 2012 23:25:26 +0100, H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@quickfur.ath.cx> wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 01:51:20PM -0700, Ali Çehreli wrote: >> On 05/03/2012 01:52 PM, deadalnix wrote: >> >Le 03/05/2012 16:50, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit : >> >>Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and >> >>increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when >> >>reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant >> >>growth spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. >> >>We are working with our provider to fix these issues. > [...] >> >I love you :D >> > >> >It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your >> >message is lost ». >> >> I've learned years ago to never trust a web page or a browser. > > +1. > > >> I always type inside the Emacs *scratch* buffer and then copy and >> paste from there to the browser window. (I did it again! :) Actually >> no, this is a Thunderbird window, but still...) > [...] > > Or just use a sane email client like Mutt and subscribe to the mailing > list instead. :-) Opera does this right too :) R -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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Posted in reply to Jeff Nowakowski | On 5/4/12 2:26 AM, Jeff Nowakowski wrote: > On 05/03/2012 10:50 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: >> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and >> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when >> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth >> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are >> working with our provider to fix these issues. > > Out of curiosity, can we get some numbers on the number of concurrent > users that are causing the problems? This would be interesting to know. Relayed upstream. > I'm surprised that a modern machine > would have trouble keeping up with newsgroup traffic. I figure it is > either broken software or the machine is actually busy doing something > else. FWIW it seemed to be just a configuration issue. Andrei |
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Posted in reply to Regan Heath | On Fri, 04 May 2012 05:00:10 -0400, Regan Heath <regan@netmail.co.nz> wrote:
> Opera does this right too :)
Yeah, I still have all my sent posts in opera...
One thing that annoys me though, if a message doesn't get sent, it stays in your outbox. Then when you double-click on it to edit/resend, it's been reformatted to be 80 characters wide for some reason.
-Steve
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Posted in reply to Ali Çehreli | Am 03.05.2012 22:51, schrieb Ali Çehreli:
> On 05/03/2012 01:52 PM, deadalnix wrote:
>> Le 03/05/2012 16:50, Andrei Alexandrescu a écrit :
>>> Just letting you all know we're working on the frustrating and
>>> increasingly frequent "Load at xx.xx, try again later" errors when
>>> reading this forum through NNTP. They are caused by a significant growth
>>> spurt in newsgroup readership that occurred in recent times. We are
>>> working with our provider to fix these issues.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>
>> I love you :D
>>
>> It was so anoying when posting a message and *pof* « error your message
>> is lost ».
>
> I've learned years ago to never trust a web page or a browser. I always
> type inside the Emacs *scratch* buffer and then copy and paste from
> there to the browser window. (I did it again! :) Actually no, this is a
> Thunderbird window, but still...)
>
> Ali
Ah, the benefits of using plain simple native desktop applications. :)
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Posted in reply to Andrei Alexandrescu | On 05/04/2012 02:27 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: > FWIW it seemed to be just a configuration issue. Perhaps not solved yet? I just hit the same problem about fifteen minutes ago. Ali |
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