On Friday, 12 June 2020 at 19:29:09 UTC, Meta wrote:
> On Thursday, 11 June 2020 at 20:21:12 UTC, aberba wrote:
>> On Thursday, 11 June 2020 at 18:00:51 UTC, Meta wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 11 June 2020 at 13:18:58 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:
>>>> I think D is fine for the scripts we tend to have and if every was fluent/enjoying D, I could see time taken to implement something in D. But I'm working with QA and developers which don't appear to be doing it for the joys of programming.
>>>
>>> Good point. It's been said many times before, but the people who use D the most and post on this mailing list are a self-selected group that, by definition, are outside the norm.
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>> I don't think the core team wants it to remain this way. Unless D is fine staying this way for another 10yrs. By then we'll all be gone.
>> <snip>
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> I *think* we're in agreement here. I just wanted to correct your inference that I meant some kind of "elite" super hackers when I said that the people posting on this list are a "self-selected group". What I meant is that the people who generally post on this mailing list are by definition not average programmers, in that they don't just learn the popular languages/frameworks you need to know to get a job and stick to those; they go out of their way to use more obscure and possibly experimental languages out of a joy for programming and/or taking new and interesting approaches to problems.

I guess that's you speaking for yourself. And then are you saying those again special programmers don't care about the ecosystem experience and are willing to live whatever it is.

 That
> being said, a lot of the people who post here are far and away some of the best programmers I've ever seen,

Best is debatable. Are back-end devs better than frontend? Are systems programmers better than web devs?

I don't doubt the are people who think they are smarter just because they find themselves in a certain domain. And that only their needs matter.

 Again, read through the experience and go through the dub repository, you see how all kinds of people use D.

Is D popular? No, not even close.
Is it the best to get to job done, it's dependence (at least for me)...ecosystem wise, No.
Does D have the best modeling power? Yes

Again this is not about popularity. The thing is if you've never experienced something like the rust community or python community or JavaScript, you'll never get this I'm trying to say. The power of a bigger community.

and I've learned a
> great deal just being involved with D in some small capacity.
We both have.