On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>
>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>
>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>
> Fucking schyzo ;)
> Have you took your little pills today ?

Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>
>>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>>
>>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>>
>> Fucking schyzo ;)
>> Have you took your little pills today ?
>
> Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.

This has nothing to do with the language, this is a simple personnal attack. You should get that, as much as any reader that discovers D would do.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>
>>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>>
>>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>>
>> Fucking schyzo ;)
>> Have you took your little pills today ?
>
> Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.

I would love to see the forum evolve into something similar to reddit, where everyone can judge the value of a comment/thread and off-topic threads (or threads with low-values) get down-voted very quickly. It might also help to avoid such 50 pages threads (like auto-decoding) as the most-important thread stays on top and newcomers to the discussion don't have to read everything to get the gist.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>>>
>>>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>>>
>>> Fucking schyzo ;)
>>> Have you took your little pills today ?
>>
>> Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.
>
> I would love to see the forum evolve into something similar to reddit, where everyone can judge the value of a comment/thread and off-topic threads (or threads with low-values) get down-voted very quickly. It might also help to avoid such 50 pages threads (like auto-decoding) as the most-important thread stays on top and newcomers to the discussion don't have to read everything to get the gist.

Preliminary documentation work:

https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-reddit-ranking-algorithms-work-ef111e33d0d9#.vawc5kat8

And you wan submit the result on Pantallex DFeeds.

The widget on the homepage must use something similar (except for up/down) votes. So at least 10 replies + something with the age of the topic. [OT] is usally a good hint about the quality of the topic but people must remember to add it when they slide.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:33:27 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>>>>
>>>>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Fucking schyzo ;)
>>>> Have you took your little pills today ?
>>>
>>> Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.
>>
>> I would love to see the forum evolve into something similar to reddit, where everyone can judge the value of a comment/thread and off-topic threads (or threads with low-values) get down-voted very quickly. It might also help to avoid such 50 pages threads (like auto-decoding) as the most-important thread stays on top and newcomers to the discussion don't have to read everything to get the gist.
>
> Preliminary documentation work:
>
> https://medium.com/hacking-and-gonzo/how-reddit-ranking-algorithms-work-ef111e33d0d9#.vawc5kat8
>
> And you wan submit the result on Pantallex DFeeds.
>
> The widget on the homepage must use something similar (except for up/down) votes. So at least 10 replies + something with the age of the topic. [OT] is usally a good hint about the quality of the topic but people must remember to add it when they slide.

I am not sure whether CyberShadow has the time to add this feature, so I doubt this will come in the near future without someone volunteering and implementing it. The code is here, so if anyone wants to send him a PR:

https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed

From recent experiences one should definitely get the okay of Andrei & Walter first that such a huge change is wanted.

In any case I was trying to say that we could use reddit more actively, we have our own subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/d_language), but it's not used for discussions. So maybe killing the bot & actively encouraging a discussion to move to reddit once it hits the OT barrier, might be an easy solution.

I opened a thread on reddit about this, in case you are interested ;-)

https://www.reddit.com/r/d_language/comments/4vel7m/can_we_kill_the_dlang_bot_and_its_ghost_threads

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:11:23 UTC, Seb wrote:
> I would love to see the forum evolve into something
> similar to reddit

I have a strong dislike of reddit (and thus rarely post there), it is really hard to use and the voting system is petty.

The D ng isn't perfect, but it is basically OK. I do think some of us ought to use a bit more discretion when posting, and it might help for some of us to call things out... or sometimes be quiet and not feed the trolls, but for the most part it is decent here.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:58:31 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 22:52:23 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:30:55 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:24:55 UTC, ketmar wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 12:18:08 UTC, LaTeigne wrote:
>>>>
>>>> it you think that you know the things better than somebody who actually *lived* there in those times... well, keep thinking that. also, don't forget to teach physics to physicians, medicine to medics, and so on. i'm pretty sure that you will have a great success as a stupidiest comic they ever seen in their life.
>>>>
>>>> also, don't bother answering me, i won't see it anyway.
>>>
>>> Fucking schyzo ;)
>>> Have you took your little pills today ?
>>
>> Well this is beautiful marketing for the language. At some point, the leadership will need to put away ideology and get realistic about what belongs on this site.
>
> This has nothing to do with the language, this is a simple personnal attack. You should get that, as much as any reader that discovers D would do.

I wasn't directing my comment at you specifically. I was talking about the direction the thread took, something I've seen with increasing frequency. It does not make a good impression, and because this is the primary place for new users to ask questions and for Google links, it is costly.

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 at 23:43:33 UTC, Seb wrote:
> In any case I was trying to say that we could use reddit more actively, we have our own subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/d_language), but it's not used for discussions. So maybe killing the bot & actively encouraging a discussion to move to reddit once it hits the OT barrier, might be an easy solution.
>
> I opened a thread on reddit about this, in case you are interested ;-)
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/d_language/comments/4vel7m/can_we_kill_the_dlang_bot_and_its_ghost_threads

I added my thoughts to that thread. You should probably post this in general as well, as few people are going to see your announcement here. I wouldn't ask what people think though. I'd just say you've started doing it. Anyone is free to post discussions in that subreddit.

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 00:04:41 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> I have a strong dislike of reddit (and thus rarely post there), it is really hard to use and the voting system is petty.

But this would be our own subreddit. I don't disagree if you're talking about r/programming.

On Sunday, 31 July 2016 at 04:32:10 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
> I wasn't directing my comment at you specifically. I was talking about the direction the thread took,

what do you prefer: to have a completely false information, or corrected information for the price of one or two troll-like posts? i prefer second, 'cause information must not only be free, but it must be correct too. ;-)

as for the attacks and trolling itself... healthy community can go thru that without any "forum police" involved (like in this case). and actually having such things and community reaction to 'em is not such a bad thing. i believe that it is quite the contrary: it paints the community as a nice open place, not some walled garden with machine gun guards patroling the area and shooting anything resembling real-world things. ;-)