I've read the answer to questions like "Which is the best programming language to learn in 2017?".

Nobody was telling anything about D, which is really sad, because in my opinion D could be one of the best answers to this question.

I've answered this question. Better late than never.

I suggest that other "happy users" of this language do the same...

On 02/28/2017 06:29 PM, Jared Jeffries wrote:
> I've read the answer to questions like "Which is the best programming
> language to learn in 2017?".
>
> Nobody was telling anything about D, which is really sad, because in my
> opinion D could be one of the best answers to this question.
>
> I've answered this question. Better late than never.
>
> I suggest that other "happy users" of this language do the same...

What's quora?

(It's really hard to always keep on top of all the latest tread sites/appz/whatever. It's all so fly-by-night.)

It's one of those forum websites where you ask a question, experts give their advices and people vote for the best answer.

You can find them by searching "best programming language 2017" in google for instance.

I suggest that D lovers answer as often as possible to these kind of questions on these websites.

For instance :
- best programming language
- best programming language for ...
- best programming language to learn
- etc

It's needed because I didn't know that D existed until somebody advised me to try it, and now it's my favorite language.

I'm now studying Java and C++ because I have to, but I'll still continue to use D and promote it.

I really learned a lot from D, it's probably the best "first programming language to learn" that one can find, much better than C, and even Java, C#, C, C++, Javascript, etc.

It should be advertised a lot for that, because it's probably the best one can find at the moment.

And it's also probably easier to convince new programmers like me to learn D as a first object oriented language, than people who are using other similar languages for years or decades.

Here is a link to my answer :

https://www.quora.com/Which-is-the-best-programming-language-to-learn-in-2017/answer/Jared-Jeffries-4?prompt_topic_bio=1

On Wednesday, 1 March 2017 at 08:12:05 UTC, Nick Sabalausky (Abscissa) wrote:
> On 02/28/2017 06:29 PM, Jared Jeffries wrote:
>
> What's quora?
>
> (It's really hard to always keep on top of all the latest tread sites/appz/whatever. It's all so fly-by-night.)

Quora is a general Q&A forum and hang-out for narcissistic know-it-alls. In fairness, the answers are typically of high quality, and there are definitely some smart folks on there.  By I get turned off by folks who do things like list their IQ or Mensa membership in their personal profiles, or post about their sexual exploits.

However the forum does often answer some highly important and relevant questions.  My favorite so far was the "If I wanted to jump from an airplane flying at 30,000 feet with nothing but bubble wrap for protection, how much would I need?"


Since you are no doubt curious, I believe the answer was you would need to be wrapped in a ball about 4m in radius.  They never explained how you would get that on the plane though.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2017 at 10:20:45 UTC, Jared Jeffries wrote:

>
> I suggest that D lovers answer as often as possible to these kind of questions on these websites.

Plenty of people do, particularly on reddit, StackOverflow, Hacker News, and whatever forums & communities they tend to hang out at (e.g. gamedev.net). If there's an absence of such at Quora, it's just because none of the vocal D users are using it.

On Tuesday, 28 February 2017 at 23:29:24 UTC, Jared Jeffries wrote:
> I've read the answer to questions like "Which is the best programming language to learn in 2017?".
>
> Nobody was telling anything about D, which is really sad, because in my opinion D could be one of the best answers to this question.
>
> I've answered this question. Better late than never.
>
> I suggest that other "happy users" of this language do the same...

There's a reason stackoverflow and softwareengineering.stackexchange delete these kinds of questions: they're counter productive and can't actually be answered.

The question "Which is the best programming language to learn in 2017" is one such question. It comes down strictly to opinion and circumstance. Because of this, the "answers" are either answering a different question or just ads for the user's favorite language. It seems most of the top answers in that thread took the question to mean "Which language would be most likely to get me a job in 2017", which isn't the same.

Programming questions on Quora are the dumping ground for bad SO questions.

Most D power users spend their time either on the IRC or on SO.

I'm not talking especially about Quora, even if I admit that it's on this forum that somebody advised me to learn D to improve my object oriented programming skills.

I'm just saying that I think that D is de facto one of the best languages for beginners like me.

A lot better than most mainstream language these forum are always promoting as the best starting programming language.

So it's sad that D is ignored by so many young programmers, because when they do some research on google, like I did, there are too little chance they will find this advice.

D is mainly known as a system programming language because it's indeed "C++ done well". But that's probably not enough to convince C++ addicts to try D, especially because of the garbage collector.

But D is a great alternative to mainstream garbage collected languages like Java, C#, Javascript, PHP, etc.

I think it should instead be advertised as the perfect language to learn programming and web development, because that's where it really shines, IMHO.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2017 at 17:09:51 UTC, Jared Jeffries wrote:
> I'm not talking especially about Quora, even if I admit that it's on this forum that somebody advised me to learn D to improve my object oriented programming skills.
>
> I'm just saying that I think that D is de facto one of the best languages for beginners like me.
>
> A lot better than most mainstream language these forum are always promoting as the best starting programming language.
>
> So it's sad that D is ignored by so many young programmers, because when they do some research on google, like I did, there are too little chance they will find this advice.
>
> D is mainly known as a system programming language because it's indeed "C++ done well". But that's probably not enough to convince C++ addicts to try D, especially because of the garbage collector.
>
> But D is a great alternative to mainstream garbage collected languages like Java, C#, Javascript, PHP, etc.
>
> I think it should instead be advertised as the perfect language to learn programming and web development, because that's where it really shines, IMHO.

I agree. We have a lot to improve in terms of marketing.

Mainly our messaging is jumbled.

Rust = memory safety
Go = the best runtime around
D = everything I guess?

And the problem is that D is good at everything (IMO), so how do we go about marketing to everyone without getting our messages mixed up in the public's view.

On Wednesday, 1 March 2017 at 17:09:51 UTC, Jared Jeffries wrote:
> I'm not talking especially about Quora, even if I admit that it's on this forum that somebody advised me to learn D to improve my object oriented programming skills.
>
> [...]
> I think it should instead be advertised as the perfect language to learn programming and web development, because that's where it really shines, IMHO.

Why do you believe this?  Don't tell me here: write it up as a post on your blog and link it on those fora.  That will help advertise the language.