November 24, 2015
On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:47:01 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:35:54 UTC, duff wrote:
>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity
>>> https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity
>>> https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity
>>> https://github.com/donc?tab=activity
>>> https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity
>>> https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity
>>>
>>> etc...
>>>
>>> Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
>>
>> If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no.
>>
>> Idle people. Useless people.
>
>
> Some of those ppl have contributed greatly to D and probably still do behind the scenes so I doubt they deserve to be "removed" from the D organization and would even be considered for removal if anything more people need to get involved.

I understand that J.Sayol has done a great job in the past, but except this work for the installer...I don't get why do you keep such people in your organisation.
I mean that it appened to me to make some small things for "Him" or "Her"...but i'm not member of their companies...
November 25, 2015
On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:47:01 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:35:54 UTC, duff wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 17:10:09 UTC, duff wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:51:58 UTC, duff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 24 November 2015 at 16:49:07 UTC, duff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Staline would say: it's time to clean up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/shoo?tab=activity https://github.com/complexmath?tab=activity https://github.com/jordisayol?tab=activity https://github.com/donc?tab=activity https://github.com/repeatedly?tab=activity https://github.com/dsimcha?tab=activity
>>>>
>>>> etc...
>>>>
>>>> Among those, nobody takes the time to review and merge the simple fixes related to ddoc or things like that. Among those, nobody takes the time to read bugzilla and to fix the simple bugs whose fixes are constantly proposed by external people who gotta wait because among those people there is no activity.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If at least they would be able to find some regressions when a new release comes...but no.
>>>
>>> Idle people. Useless people.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Some of those ppl have contributed greatly to D and probably still do behind the scenes so I doubt they deserve to be "removed" from the D organization and would even be considered for removal if anything more people need to get involved.
>>
>
> I understand that J.Sayol has done a great job in the past, but except
> this work for the installer...I don't get why do you keep such people in
> your organisation.
> I mean that it appened to me to make some small things for "Him" or
> "Her"...but i'm not member of their companies...
>

If members wish to leave, they may request to do so.  Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not.

I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do so under a work-related github account.

All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?


November 25, 2015
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
> If members wish to leave, they may request to do so.  Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not.

+infinity

If we want anything, we want these folks to be contributing again, not to be ostracized. Being rude to them gains us nothing and potentially loses us a very valuable contributor permanently. They are _very_ welcome to actively contribute again whenever they are ready and willing to do so. We'd love for it to be contributing more often, but life often gets in the way, and even if any of them have decided to move on and never return, it's not like it hurts us to let them still have commit access.

We want to encourage contributions, not ostracize people for not contributing on a regular basis.

- Jonathan M Davis
November 25, 2015
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 17:34:42 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>> [...]
>
> +infinity
>
> If we want anything, we want these folks to be contributing again, not to be ostracized. Being rude to them gains us nothing and potentially loses us a very valuable contributor permanently. They are _very_ welcome to actively contribute again whenever they are ready and willing to do so. We'd love for it to be contributing more often, but life often gets in the way, and even if any of them have decided to move on and never return, it's not like it hurts us to let them still have commit access.
>
> We want to encourage contributions, not ostracize people for not contributing on a regular basis.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis

Well said :-)
November 25, 2015
On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
> On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
>>[...]
>
> If members wish to leave, they may request to do so.  Ousting people is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community, long standing or not.
>
> I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do so under a work-related github account.
>
> All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?

don't feed the trolls :-)
November 25, 2015
On 11/25/2015 05:07 PM, lobo wrote:
> On Wednesday, 25 November 2015 at 08:41:05 UTC, Iain Buclaw wrote:
>> On 24 November 2015 at 19:04, duff via Digitalmars-d <
>> digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>
>> If members wish to leave, they may request to do so.  Ousting people
>> is not an acceptable attitude towards any member in our community,
>> long standing or not.
>>
>> I am aware of some of whom you've chosen to be vocal about have been
>> around or contributing for 10 years, whilst others are active but do
>> so under a work-related github account.
>>
>> All attended Dconf, most on a yearly basis, where were you?
>
> don't feed the trolls :-)

That's exactly right. No need to dignify such interventions with a response. -- Andrei
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