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Release D v2.076.1
Oct 09, 2017
Martin Nowak
Oct 09, 2017
zabruk70
Oct 11, 2017
b4s1L3
Oct 11, 2017
b4s1L3
Oct 12, 2017
b4s1L3
Oct 12, 2017
b4s1L3
Oct 13, 2017
Jonathan M Davis
Oct 13, 2017
Adam Wilson
Nov 30, 2017
Martin Nowak
October 09, 2017
Glad to announce D v2.076.1.

http://dlang.org/download.html

This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.

http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html

- -Martin
October 09, 2017
On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>
> http://dlang.org/download.html
>
> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>
> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>
> - -Martin

http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html - not found
http://dlang.org/changelog/2.076.1.html  - right url
October 11, 2017
On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>
> http://dlang.org/download.html
>
> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>
> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>
> - -Martin

I didn't test the beta and missed this regression discovered by a CRON at TravisCI:

https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893

October 11, 2017
On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 10:20:01 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
> On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>>
>> http://dlang.org/download.html
>>
>> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>>
>> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>>
>> - -Martin
>
> I didn't test the beta and missed this regression discovered by a CRON at TravisCI:
>
> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893

Sound like we need more test coverage on the Project Tester (https://github.com/dlang/ci/blob/master/pipeline.groovy#L319).
October 11, 2017
On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 13:08:38 UTC, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 10:20:01 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
>> On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>>>
>>> http://dlang.org/download.html
>>>
>>> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>>>
>>> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>>>
>>> - -Martin
>>
>> I didn't test the beta and missed this regression discovered by a CRON at TravisCI:
>>
>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893
>
> Sound like we need more test coverage on the Project Tester (https://github.com/dlang/ci/blob/master/pipeline.groovy#L319).

The regression was discovered in iz, which was at least another time "victim" of a regression (almost day for day 1 year ago). https://github.com/BBasile/iz.

This time it is trivial to overcome. It happens in a contract so checking for a version number does the job and the release version is not affected at all.
October 12, 2017
On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 13:38:10 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 13:08:38 UTC, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 10:20:01 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
>>> On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>>>>
>>>> http://dlang.org/download.html
>>>>
>>>> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>>>>
>>>> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>>>>
>>>> - -Martin
>>>
>>> I didn't test the beta and missed this regression discovered by a CRON at TravisCI:
>>>
>>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893
>>
>> Sound like we need more test coverage on the Project Tester (https://github.com/dlang/ci/blob/master/pipeline.groovy#L319).
>
> The regression was discovered in iz, which was at least another time "victim" of a regression (almost day for day 1 year ago). https://github.com/BBasile/iz.
>
> This time it is trivial to overcome. It happens in a contract so checking for a version number does the job and the release version is not affected at all.

I can still add dmd beta as D Compiler in the CI. I think that iz occasionally breaks because it covers many programming style, not because of its "edginess", which means that's its probably not worth adding it to the Project tester.
October 12, 2017
On Thursday, 12 October 2017 at 14:20:42 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 13:38:10 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 13:08:38 UTC, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 10:20:01 UTC, b4s1L3 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, 9 October 2017 at 19:44:24 UTC, Martin Nowak wrote:
>>>>> Glad to announce D v2.076.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dlang.org/download.html
>>>>>
>>>>> This point release fixes a few issues over v2.076.1, see the changelog for more details.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://dlang.org/changelog/v2.076.1.html
>>>>>
>>>>> - -Martin
>>>>
>>>> I didn't test the beta and missed this regression discovered by a CRON at TravisCI:
>>>>
>>>> https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17893
>>>
>>> Sound like we need more test coverage on the Project Tester (https://github.com/dlang/ci/blob/master/pipeline.groovy#L319).
>>
>> The regression was discovered in iz, which was at least another time "victim" of a regression (almost day for day 1 year ago). https://github.com/BBasile/iz.
>>
>> This time it is trivial to overcome. It happens in a contract so checking for a version number does the job and the release version is not affected at all.
>
> I can still add dmd beta as D Compiler in the CI. I think that iz occasionally breaks because it covers many programming style, not because of its "edginess", which means that's its probably not worth adding it to the Project tester.

Also i'd like to say that the policy that is that regression fixes are commited on stable and that the fact that they only come to master in a "sync operation" is a problem.

In the travis yaml we have to test dmd, dmd beta (stable, not yet released) and finally dmd master (current working tree). The policy should be changed so that regression fixes are commited to both master and stable, allowing to decrease the CI complexity.

The problem is mainly that testing a project with dmd beta is pointless. It's only useful 1 or 2 weeks before a release, which happens , let's say, 4 times per years, leading to a waste of computing resources at the CI service.

With reg fixes put in master at the same time that in stable, testing 3 versions of the DMD compiler would not be necessary anymore, i think.
October 12, 2017
On Thursday, October 12, 2017 14:39:27 b4s1L3 via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> Also i'd like to say that the policy that is that regression fixes are commited on stable and that the fact that they only come to master in a "sync operation" is a problem.
>
> In the travis yaml we have to test dmd, dmd beta (stable, not yet released) and finally dmd master (current working tree). The policy should be changed so that regression fixes are commited to both master and stable, allowing to decrease the CI complexity.
>
> The problem is mainly that testing a project with dmd beta is pointless. It's only useful 1 or 2 weeks before a release, which happens , let's say, 4 times per years, leading to a waste of computing resources at the CI service.
>
> With reg fixes put in master at the same time that in stable, testing 3 versions of the DMD compiler would not be necessary anymore, i think.

I don't know what the best way to handle committing regression fixes is, but I did find it annoying recently when I ran into a bug on master that I'd fixed on stable, but the fix hadn't been merged over yet. The fact that the fixes are delayed on master makes master buggier than it would be otherwise, and a number of us use master as our primary compiler.

- Jonathan M Davis

October 12, 2017
On 10/12/17 19:50, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 14:39:27 b4s1L3 via Digitalmars-d-announce
> wrote:
>> Also i'd like to say that the policy that is that regression
>> fixes are commited on stable and that the fact that they only
>> come to master in a "sync operation" is a problem.
>>
>> In the travis yaml we have to test dmd, dmd beta (stable, not yet
>> released) and finally dmd master (current working tree). The
>> policy should be changed so that regression fixes are commited to
>> both master and stable, allowing to decrease the CI complexity.
>>
>> The problem is mainly that testing a project with dmd beta is
>> pointless. It's only useful 1 or 2 weeks before a release, which
>> happens , let's say, 4 times per years, leading to a waste of
>> computing resources at the CI service.
>>
>> With reg fixes put in master at the same time that in stable,
>> testing 3 versions of the DMD compiler would not be necessary
>> anymore, i think.
>
> I don't know what the best way to handle committing regression fixes is, but
> I did find it annoying recently when I ran into a bug on master that I'd
> fixed on stable, but the fix hadn't been merged over yet. The fact that the
> fixes are delayed on master makes master buggier than it would be otherwise,
> and a number of us use master as our primary compiler.
>
> - Jonathan M Davis
>

At work we branch out of stable (not yet released) and fix the bug. Merge branch to stable and then merge branch to master. Works pretty well. As long as you don't merge things into stable that you never intend for master.

-- 
Adam Wilson
IRC: LightBender
import quiet.dlang.dev;
November 30, 2017
On 10/13/2017 04:50 AM, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> With reg fixes put in master at the same time that in stable, testing 3 versions of the DMD compiler would not be necessary anymore, i think.
> 
> I don't know what the best way to handle committing regression fixes is

Regression fixes (and non-risky bug fixes) should always go into stable.

> I did find it annoying recently when I ran into a bug on master that I'd fixed on stable, but the fix hadn't been merged over yet.

I do open pull requests from stable to master immediately after each (beta) release, and things usually get merged back fairly timely.

-Martin