On 08/03/2015 02:04 AM, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> On Sunday, 2 August 2015 at 17:07:39 UTC, Timon Gehr wrote:
>> On 08/01/2015 12:02 AM, Paul D Anderson wrote:
>>> p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating system
>>> is than Windows. Thank you. :)
>>
>> There are plenty operating systems that are not my favourite, yet
>> still much better than Windows.
>
> Just couldn't restrain your self eh?

Just pointing out a loophole.

On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...

Windows does have a posix subsystem: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772343.aspx

On Monday, 3 August 2015 at 10:37:43 UTC, Kagamin wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...
>
> Windows does have a posix subsystem: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc772343.aspx

How well does that work?

On Monday, 3 August 2015 at 14:43:00 UTC, Tofu Ninja wrote:
> How well does that work?

Well, if it exists in the first place, I suppose, it has some sizable users?

On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:
>> I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?
>
> We probably should have done more testing on it, but at least in theory, programs compiled on at least Windows 7 or 8 should work on 10. They haven't done as good a job with it in recent years, but backwards compatibility is kind of Microsoft's thing and part of why many folks use Windows.
>
> But regardless, if you find bugs in dmd or Phobos or anything of the sort which show up specifically on Windows 10, please report them: https://issues.dlang.org
>
>> p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)
>
> Wait, what if someone's favorite OS _was_ Windows. If they started talking about how much better Windows was than Windows, would that create some kind of paradox? ;)
>
> You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome, bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really, but _man_ would that be cool...
>
Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux) on windows 10.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10. bash as shell and much more.

As for windows 10, I just got one of our new laptops at work (EU Commission) with it, but because of the very restrictive IT policies we have (no local admin, impossible to run uninstalled exe's) I cannot tell if dmd or anything compiling exe's work.

On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 14:05:48 UTC, Patrick Schluter wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>>[...]
> Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux) on windows 10.
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
>
> It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10. bash as shell and much more.
>
> As for windows 10, I just got one of our new laptops at work (EU Commission) with it, but because of the very restrictive IT policies we have (no local admin, impossible to run uninstalled exe's) I cannot tell if dmd or anything compiling exe's work.

It works as you can see here: https://i.imgur.com/24AKmO3.png

You can basically compile D on WSL for Windows or Linux if you have the compilers installed.

On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:05:48 +0000, Patrick Schluter wrote:
> On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
>> You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that
>> was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the
>> Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome,
>> bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows
>> programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really,
>> but _man_ would that be cool...
>>
> Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux) on windows 10. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
> 
> It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10. bash as shell and much more.

There's no way to run KDE or GNOME with it instead of the native shell, though. If you succeeded, you wouldn't be able to run native Windows applications inside. I ran into this problem running GNOME on OSX.

And as a nitpick, Linux isn't fully POSIX compliant.

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:15 AM Neia Neutuladh via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 14:05:48 +0000, Patrick Schluter wrote:
> > On Saturday, 1 August 2015 at 04:25:07 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
> >> You know, it would be _really_ cool if there were an OS out there that
> >> was fully compliant with both the POSIX standard and ecosystem and the
> >> Win32 API such that you could run KDE, gnome,
> >> bash, zsh, etc. on it just like on Linux/FreeBSD/etc. _and_ run Windows
> >> programs on it - all as native applications. A total pipe dream really,
> >> but _man_ would that be cool...
> >>
> > Sarcasm or just that you didn't know about WSL (Windows subsystem for Linux) on windows 10. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10
> >
> > It's supposed to be able to run Linux app natively on windows 10. bash as shell and much more.
>
> There's no way to run KDE or GNOME with it instead of the native shell, though. If you succeeded, you wouldn't be able to run native Windows applications inside. I ran into this problem running GNOME on OSX.
>
> And as a nitpick, Linux isn't fully POSIX compliant.

I run windowed linux software from WSL... just run a windows XServer. Apparently you can run KDE/Gnome... but I'm not sure why you would. Just let the applications create their own windows in the Windows environment.

On Friday, 31 July 2015 at 22:02:13 UTC, Paul D Anderson wrote:
> I'm waiting to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 to avoid the inevitable just-released bugs, but does anyone have any info about D on Windows 10? Has anyone tried it?
>
> p.s. Please don't tell me how much better your favorite operating system is than Windows. Thank you. :)

I have being using dmd on windows 10. I have never encounter any problem.  That said,  I am not a pro in dlang. But it is working like a charm for me

On Saturday, 5 January 2019 at 14:05:48 UTC, Patrick Schluter wrote:
> [...]

2015 necroposts? :3

On topic, I'm a Linux creature but I keep a Windows box around for various purposes.

1. No dmd64 download. Yes, dmd32 can build 64-bit code, but that's academical when it runs out of addressable memory and crashes. I'm currently downloading AppVeyor dmd.exe build artifacts; still wonder why the dlang.org download page doesn't offer links to those at the very least (compare with RPCS3 downloads[1]). I fail to understand the reasoning here. It's not like excessive memory use isn't one of the things plaguing D.

2. Windows Defender/SafeScreen/something or another pauses. Downloading and running the dmd installer can take a minute or two as it presumably calls home to ask if it's okay to run.

3. Not dmd's fault, but no SSL libs for use with dlang-requests without falling back to downloading an installer from some shady site.

4. Something something vscode. I've been having more issues with it failing to compile code-d than on the Linux machines. That was before the fundraiser push though, likely it has improved since.

[1]: https://rpcs3.net/download