On 8/7/2014 1:05 PM, Manu via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

I've never encountered anybody try and use MSC from the command line in
about 15 years professionally.

I've tried to. When using Marmalade. Marmalade's mandatory build system is very closed-off and VS-integrated, so when I needed to include other stuff into my workflow (forget exactly why/what), I had to invoke from a script. And it worked *very* poorly.

The fact that so few people use VS from the cmd line could partly be *because* it works so poorly:

Ex 1: There's a lot of apple fans who have rationalized all sorts of limitations as "good", or at least acceptable, long as the apple didn't support them. Then the moment apple would offer it, suddenly it'd be hailed as the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Ex 2: Linux users rarely use GUI file managers. I love GUI file managers, but when I'm on Linux, I find even I do a lot more of my file management on the cmdline than I normally would. I do that *because* linux file managers tend to be pretty bad (esp the Nautilus-based ones IMO). So I'm not surprised other Linux users aren't really into GUI file managers either.

We could be seeing a similar thing here. Something is shunned as "bad" *because* that particular world's version of it is very poorly done or otherwise unavailable.

That's what I mean about this culture; it's
the opposite of linux, and it outright rejects practises that are
linux-like.

While I don't doubt that's true of a lot of people in the industry, I have to question how much stubbornly clinging to ignorance can really count as a "culture". I'm tempted to claim that isn't culture at all, it's just pandemic pigheaded ignorance.