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March 31
I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.

cc Vladimir :o)
March 31
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.

I'm sure this wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement, but I also don't think it is a good idea. Online voting is emotionally toxic and logically fallacious. We're better off without it.
March 31
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:40:15 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.
>
> I'm sure this wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement, but I also don't think it is a good idea. Online voting is emotionally toxic and logically fallacious. We're better off without it.

I agree

Filtering or sorting by votes usually creates echo chambers. It is a pretty effective way to kill any possibility of fruitful debate: anyone who doesn't *sound* right to the majority of voters at the beginning quickly becomes invisible, largely eliminating the possibility of ever changing the majority's mind about anything.

Even without filtering and sorting, voting turns discussion into a popularity contest, attracts politicians, and creates new ones. In general, it's only really good for things that aren't controversial.

All that said, many websites make it worse than it needs to be with bad systems. (Bad for users, that is - maybe not bad for ruthlessly manipulating public opinion.) Up votes and down votes should always be tracked and displayed separately. Combined net counts are stupid and misleading: 0 upvotes and 100 downvotes means something very different from 10_000 upvotes and 10_100 downvotes.
March 31
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:40:15 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.
>
> I'm sure this wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement, but I also don't think it is a good idea. Online voting is emotionally toxic and logically fallacious. We're better off without it.

+1
March 31
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.
>
> cc Vladimir :o)

If you want a voting system, just use old.reddit.com/r/dlang

Clint.
March 31
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 22:06:38 UTC, tsbockman wrote:
> [snip]
>
> I agree
>
> Filtering or sorting by votes usually creates echo chambers. It is a pretty effective way to kill any possibility of fruitful debate: anyone who doesn't *sound* right to the majority of voters at the beginning quickly becomes invisible, largely eliminating the possibility of ever changing the majority's mind about anything.
> [snip]


Obligatory
https://www.evanmiller.org/how-not-to-sort-by-average-rating.html
March 31
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 09:40:15PM +0000, Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d wrote:
> On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> > I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.
> 
> I'm sure this wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement, but I also don't think it is a good idea. Online voting is emotionally toxic and logically fallacious. We're better off without it.

+1.

It will also lead to totally pointless and fallacious reactions like "this comment was rated highest, how come Walter refuses to implement what it said?".

(And yes, I realize the irony of this post. :-D)


T

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Never step over a puddle, always step around it. Chances are that whatever made it is still dripping.
April 01
On Wednesday, 31 March 2021 at 21:26:48 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> I wonder how difficult it would be to add a voting system for forum messages. Votes wouldn't be available in the NNTP interface but would be accessible in the Web interface and would allow sorting and filtering by votes.
>
> cc Vladimir :o)

Here is an better idea: Why not allow us to edit our post to correct typos?

-Alex
March 31
On 3/31/2021 5:55 PM, 12345swordy wrote:
> Here is an better idea: Why not allow us to edit our post to correct typos?

Because it is implemented using NNTP. Editing posts means people will wind up with different versions of a post, which may be baffling.

I would go for, at least with the DFeed, delaying posting a post for, say, 10 minutes to allow one to have second thoughts.
March 31
On 3/31/2021 2:40 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
> I'm sure this wouldn't be terribly difficult to implement, but I also don't think it is a good idea. Online voting is emotionally toxic and logically fallacious. We're better off without it.

Votes on Reddit and Hackernews are heavily biased towards first posts. Posts the next day might as well have never happened.

Another thing is on HN, downvoting based on politics rather than quality is proscribed but happens relentlessly anyway.

I prefer the egalitarian approach of all voices here are equal. The only moderation we do is deleting posts that don't belong here, like spam.
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