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June 08, 2008
Re: TCPI @ #12, rising, been higher, ho-hum. :-|
Georg Wrede wrote:
> BCS wrote:
>> Reply to Walter,
>>
>>> JMNorris wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since Tiobe mostly measures buzz, let's all buzz!  (I wonder whether
>>>> Walter's Code Talk is what's primarily responsible for turning around
>>>> the Q1-08 slump?)
>>>>
>>> Writing articles about D is almost as important as writing code.
>>>
>>
>> An un-cited reference to D?
>>
>> http://dobbscodetalk.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=502
> 
> I wonder.
> 
> I'd bet TIOBE uses some algorithms, however trivial they may be, to see 
> the difference between the article and genuine "D buzz".
> 
> One-letter languages like C must have taught them to do better than to 
> google for "C" or "D".

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm
June 09, 2008
Re: TCPI @ #12, rising, been higher, ho-hum. :-|
BCS Wrote:

> http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
> 
> 

I have been using D 1.0 for about 6 months for small projects and, although I like 

the language, I am frustrated by the lack of tools such as an IDE or forms editor.
I guess I have been spoilt by programs such as Visual Studio, etc.

I think D should look at freepascal / Lazarus for inspiration as to an IDE / forms 

editor package that provides multi-OS development and support.

With the right tools that make the job easier many more people will climb onboard 

the D ship.

Just my 2p worth :-)

Regards, Mike.
June 09, 2008
Re: TCPI @ #12, rising, been higher, ho-hum. :-|
Mike James wrote:
> the language, I am frustrated by the lack of tools such as an IDE or forms editor.
> I guess I have been spoilt by programs such as Visual Studio, etc.

Forms editors:
--------------
Entice ( http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php ) is the only one I know 
of. Outputs both DFL and DWT code now.

IDEs:
-----
Loads of 'em. I'm working on the Descent project ( 
http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent ), which provides a very 
fully-featured IDE as an Eclipse plugin, but some people find it kind of 
bloated/slow, though we're working on it. There are numerous others 
(just search the NG...)
June 09, 2008
Re: TCPI @ #12, rising, been higher, ho-hum. :-|
Yes, I know of the available IDE and Forms Editor tools - I have been using them. My point was level of functionality - it would be worth your while downloading freepascal / lazarus (open source) for a test drive just to see what level of functionality would probably be required to drag people away from their Visual Studios. I'm impressed by lazarus (being an old Delphi / Pascal coder) and to have the same IDE facilities for D would rack up the points in the compiler league.

Regards, Mike.


Robert Fraser Wrote:

> Mike James wrote:
> > the language, I am frustrated by the lack of tools such as an IDE or forms editor.
> > I guess I have been spoilt by programs such as Visual Studio, etc.
> 
> Forms editors:
> --------------
> Entice ( http://www.dprogramming.com/entice.php ) is the only one I know 
> of. Outputs both DFL and DWT code now.
> 
> IDEs:
> -----
> Loads of 'em. I'm working on the Descent project ( 
> http://www.dsource.org/projects/descent ), which provides a very 
> fully-featured IDE as an Eclipse plugin, but some people find it kind of 
> bloated/slow, though we're working on it. There are numerous others 
> (just search the NG...)
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