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June 20, 2003
"Nic Tiger" <tiger7@progtech.ru> escreveu na mensagem news:bcsul9$h1h$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I can join you.
> What is required from me?
>
> Nic Tiger.

The ICFP gives us 72 hours to complete the task, so if you can stay awake through the weekend is a plus ;) Seriously we need: capability to stay online through the weekend, desire to help improve D's status, hacking skills (i.e. ability to bang code fast, do quick prototyping, debug like a banshee and some optimizing skills for the last hours before shipping) and general programming knowledge (e.g. able to learn new things and implement them). Welcome to the team, so far it's me, you and Burton Radons.


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June 20, 2003
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From: "Daniel Yokomiso" <daniel_yokomiso@yahoo.com.br>
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Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: ICFP 2003


> The ICFP gives us 72 hours to complete the task, so if you can stay awake through the weekend is a plus ;) Seriously we need: capability to stay online through the weekend, desire to help improve D's status, hacking skills (i.e. ability to bang code fast, do quick prototyping, debug like a banshee and some optimizing skills for the last hours before shipping) and general programming knowledge (e.g. able to learn new things and implement them). Welcome to the team, so far it's me, you and Burton Radons.
>

Too bad I can't join you on this one gang! I'm rooting for you though! Good luck!

Andrew


June 20, 2003
I may also try to help out, but the problem is my beloved "sister" has got a birthday on that saturday... besides, i'm not a very fast hacker... But else i would try to help someway, esp. in the beginning. I want to see whether i can gain some more people for that. So far i meet people, who are either Java fans, or C++ fans, and are too hard to gain for anything else.

-i.

In article <bctljl$159l$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Daniel Yokomiso says...
>The ICFP gives us 72 hours to complete the task, so if you can stay awake through the weekend is a plus ;) Seriously we need: capability to stay online through the weekend, desire to help improve D's status, hacking skills (i.e. ability to bang code fast, do quick prototyping, debug like a banshee and some optimizing skills for the last hours before shipping) and general programming knowledge (e.g. able to learn new things and implement them). Welcome to the team, so far it's me, you and Burton Radons.
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June 21, 2003
"Ilya Minkov" <Ilya_member@pathlink.com> escreveu na mensagem news:bcufbo$1ruc$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> I may also try to help out, but the problem is my beloved "sister" has got
a
> birthday on that saturday... besides, i'm not a very fast hacker... But
else i
> would try to help someway, esp. in the beginning. I want to see whether i
can
> gain some more people for that. So far i meet people, who are either Java
fans,
> or C++ fans, and are too hard to gain for anything else.
>
> -i.

    Well if you only need to leave for something like 2 to 6 hours then it's
ok. But if you need more time (e.g. travel time, organize the party, buy
gifts) it may compromise the tight schedule. If we are around the globe,
we'll have different timezones to deal with and maybe the party time will
fall in some kind of covered hole (e.g. either other people will be
available or everyone is sleeping). I don't know. If you think you can
handle this you're welcome.


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June 21, 2003

Burton Radons wrote:
> I am.  For CVS we could use either Helmut or OpenD.org; that could also be used for file storage if necessary.

Do you want to create an open CVS space on OpenD.org ?

If yes, the contest would be a good starting point.
If no, I'd post the access data for my prowiki2.com CVS.

> I also see a need for both instant (irc) a

I've little chat experience. Please suggest a system
so I can install and test it.

> and structured (news) collaboration.

I think this can be done here in a special thread.

I'd also suggest (wiki) collaboration for
   - overall and individual task lists
   - overall design and documentation

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Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
June 21, 2003
In article <3EF40CC8.4158BEBA@chello.at>, Helmut Leitner says...

>Burton Radons wrote:
>> I am.  For CVS we could use either Helmut or OpenD.org; that could also be used for file storage if necessary.
>Do you want to create an open CVS space on OpenD.org ?
>If yes, the contest would be a good starting point.
>If no, I'd post the access data for my prowiki2.com CVS.
>> I also see a need for both instant (irc) a
>I've little chat experience. Please suggest a system
>so I can install and test it.

Check this:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=administer+easy&num=100&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=irc+server&as_oq=quick+manage+Windows+Linux&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&safe=images

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Helmut seems eager enough, how about the OpenD gang?

I think we should decide right now, so that we have
enought time to set it up, have everyone train using
the wiki and cvs, and we also need the IRC channel
right now.

If we have access to a private server, then we can
run a "private IRC", otherwise we can use any public
IRC server, but then we need a bot to restrict everyone
else from crowding the channel.

The "private" would be easier, all we need is to download and start an IRC server somewhere. The privacy would be from nobody else knowing about the server or its address. Quick, effortless and easy.  Servers for both Windows and Linux can be downloaded from a million places.

Using IRC makes everyone feel they are talking in the same room, which is essential here.

>I'd also suggest (wiki) collaboration for
>   - overall and individual task lists
>   - overall design and documentation
>Helmut Leitner    leitner@hls.via.at

Yes, all that you hang on the wall in the programmers'
room should be on the wiki.


June 25, 2003
Georg Wrede wrote:
> If we have access to a private server, then we can
> run a "private IRC", otherwise we can use any public
> IRC server, but then we need a bot to restrict everyone
> else from crowding the channel.

One doesn't need any bot.

There have been 2 #D channels on different open IRC servers, and they had been announced here. 1 client parked, no person alive there. Simply noone is interested.

Making the cannel invisible or requiering an invitation would be OK, any newcomer would simply need to knock on some existing member to get invited.

-i.

June 25, 2003
In article <bdd0q5$2roe$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
>Making the cannel invisible or requiring an invitation would be OK, any newcomer would simply need to knock on some existing member to get invited.

I stand corrected.

In this particular case, we are fighting against the others.
Our ICFP 2003 group has to keep all its internal communication
secret from the other groups, and that's why we need a secure channe.
If this can be done without a bot, the better. (I'm too old to be
an expert on IRC. :-(

Overall, I think we do not yet have a sufficient mass to sustain an IRC channel on general D issues with on-going, round the clock communication. But the time will come. And, since we are well scattered globally, the future IRC channel may even be more evenly loaded than if it were a US-only channel.


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