Matthew wrote:

> I think this is going to have to be done, as I'm drowning under the volume, and I
> know Walter's having trouble keeping me supplied with hourly compiler updates <G>
> because of it.
> 
> I don't know what I would suggest, but I think at the least we should have
> D.newbies and D.bugs groups.
> 
> Votes?
> 
> For
> ---
> 
> Matthew
  Stephan
> 
> Against
> -------
> 
> 
But I would call it something different than newbies because many newbies won't asked there if it has that name. Call it D.questions or D.help

it might be worthwhile specifically calling out something like "compiler.bugs" and "code.bugs". Sure, there will be some overlap, but hopefully it would be relatively easy for most folks to distinguish between the two.

At least "code.bugs" will be listed before "compiler .bugs" (alphabetically) so it may soak up some newbie stuff.

- Kris


"J Anderson" <REMOVEanderson@badmama.com.au> wrote in message news:c66t9a$2ivr$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> Matthew wrote:
>
> >I think this is going to have to be done, as I'm drowning under the
volume, and I
> >know Walter's having trouble keeping me supplied with hourly compiler
updates <G>
> >because of it.
> >
> >I don't know what I would suggest, but I think at the least we should
have
> >D.newbies and D.bugs groups.
> >
> >
>
> I don't know about these group names.  I mean I don't seen to many
> bug-reports.  Parhaps
> D.feature
> D.newbies
> D.bugs
>
> or just D.feature and D.newbies
>
> --
> -Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:c66u3s$2l13$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> the FAQs could be mentioned in the same paragraph, such as PLEASE CHECK
THE
> F.A.Q.s BEFORE YOU POST!!!

This is, of course, the downside to newsgroups, because you cannot have "rules" - although no one reads them anyway.  Nor would they in this case.

-[Unknown]

>> For
>> ---
>>
>> Matthew
>  Stephan
+++C. Sauls+++
>>
>> Against
>> -------
>>
>>

And I agree with the 'd.help' name as opposed to 'd.newbies' and its ilk.

-C. Sauls
-Invironz

Unknown W. Brackets wrote:

> Then each bug code could be include in the subject line (a convention).
>
>That could be quite useful.
>
>Reminds me - the compiler isn't translatable at all, is it?  It would be
>great if you could use an import (or .h file...) for all language entries,
>and freely distribute that so localized compilers can be made for Spanish,
>German, etc.
>
>With this, adding tags to the error codes would not be as arduous - all the
>strings would just be in that file.
>
>-[Unknown]
>  
>

Well for C++ I always search google groups by the code.  Users could also browse the codes already there and not need to post if the solution is already there.

-- 
-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/

Unknown W. Brackets wrote:

> "J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:c66u3s$2l13$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>the FAQs could be mentioned in the same paragraph, such as PLEASE CHECK
> 
> THE
> 
>>F.A.Q.s BEFORE YOU POST!!!
> 
> 
> This is, of course, the downside to newsgroups, because you cannot have
> "rules" - although no one reads them anyway.  Nor would they in this case.
> 
> -[Unknown]

That's right. But people are finding out about the newsgroup somehow. I'm guessing it's from the Digital Mars website. They may choose to ignore the BOLD text. But I can dream . . .

<random brilliant idea>
On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
</random brilliant idea>

Any case, I'm just throwing out ideas. Walter's vote is worth a lot more than mine.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

Kris wrote:
> it might be worthwhile specifically calling out something like
> "compiler.bugs" and "code.bugs". Sure, there will be some overlap, but
> hopefully it would be relatively easy for most folks to distinguish between
> the two.
> 
> At least "code.bugs" will be listed before "compiler .bugs" (alphabetically)
> so it may soak up some newbie stuff.

Like compile-time vs. run-time?

> 
> - Kris
> 
> 
> "J Anderson" <REMOVEanderson@badmama.com.au> wrote in message
> news:c66t9a$2ivr$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>Matthew wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think this is going to have to be done, as I'm drowning under the
> 
> volume, and I
> 
>>>know Walter's having trouble keeping me supplied with hourly compiler
> 
> updates <G>
> 
>>>because of it.
>>>
>>>I don't know what I would suggest, but I think at the least we should
> 
> have
> 
>>>D.newbies and D.bugs groups.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I don't know about these group names.  I mean I don't seen to many
>>bug-reports.  Parhaps
>>D.feature
>>D.newbies
>>D.bugs
>>
>>or just D.feature and D.newbies
>>
>>--
>>-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/


-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:c66vp3$2mbs$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> <random brilliant idea>
> On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a
> forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
> </random brilliant idea>

Well, considering I write forum software (www.simplemachines.org) this would of course be something I think would solve problems, but it also could increase load, bandwidth, etc.

Of course, with that people still don't read things - but sometimes you do get lucky, and moderation is easier ;).

-[Unknown]

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:c66vp3$2mbs$2@digitaldaemon.com...
> <random brilliant idea>
> On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a
> forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
> </random brilliant idea>

Well, we should perhaps offload some of this to dsource.org ...

"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:c66vr4$2mbs$3@digitaldaemon.com...
> Like compile-time vs. run-time?

I meant "how-to fix my program" versus "the compiler generated bogus code".

It's way, way too easy to read different meanings into short names, isn't it :-)