April 21, 2004
Kris wrote:
> "J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:c66vr4$2mbs$3@digitaldaemon.com...
> 
>>Like compile-time vs. run-time?
> 
> 
> I meant "how-to fix my program" versus "the compiler generated bogus code".

Ok, I get it.

> 
> It's way, way too easy to read different meanings into short names, isn't it
> :-)

Maybe. It also could be that my eyes are crossed from trying to read all of these messages that suddenly appeared in the newsgroup.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
April 22, 2004
In article <c67023$2o6a$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Kris says...
>
>"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message news:c66vp3$2mbs$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>> <random brilliant idea>
>> On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a
>> forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
>> </random brilliant idea>
>
>Well, we should perhaps offload some of this to dsource.org ...
>
Please don't!
the dsource.org forums are unreadable.

Ant


April 22, 2004
"Matthew" <matthew.hat@stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message
news:c66s9i$2hv9$3@digitaldaemon.com
| I think this is going to have to be done, as I'm drowning under the
volume, and I
| know Walter's having trouble keeping me supplied with hourly compiler
updates <G>
| because of it.
|
| I don't know what I would suggest, but I think at the least we should have
| D.newbies and D.bugs groups.
|
| Votes?
|
| For
| ---
|
| Matthew
|

[adding previous ones]
J Anderson
J C Calvarese
Unknown
Ant
Stephan Wienczny
C. Sauls
Carlos Santander

| Against
| -------


-----------------------
Carlos Santander Bernal


April 22, 2004
"Matthew" <matthew.hat@stlsoft.dot.org> wrote in message news:c66s9i$2hv9$3@digitaldaemon.com...
> I think this is going to have to be done, as I'm drowning under the
volume, and I
> know Walter's having trouble keeping me supplied with hourly compiler
updates <G>
> because of it.
>
> I don't know what I would suggest, but I think at the least we should have D.newbies and D.bugs groups.
>
> Votes?
>

| For
| -------

Matthew
J Anderson
J C Calvarese
Unknown
Ant
Stephan Wienczny
C. Sauls
Carlos Santander
Kris

| Against
| -------




April 22, 2004
Ant wrote:
> In article <c67023$2o6a$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Kris says...
> 
>>"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message
>>news:c66vp3$2mbs$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>>
>>><random brilliant idea>
>>>On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a
>>>forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
>>></random brilliant idea>
>>
>>Well, we should perhaps offload some of this to dsource.org ...
>>
> 
> Please don't!
> the dsource.org forums are unreadable.
> 
> Ant

How are they "unreadable"?

And there's a search function. That's more than the web interface can claim.

-- 
Justin
http://jcc_7.tripod.com/d/
April 22, 2004
Unknown W. Brackets wrote:

>"J C Calvarese" <jcc7@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:c66vp3$2mbs$2@digitaldaemon.com...
>  
>
>><random brilliant idea>
>>On the other hand, we could shut down the newsgroup and all go to a
>>forum where we wouldn't let anyone post without registering first.
>></random brilliant idea>
>>    
>>
>
>Well, considering I write forum software (www.simplemachines.org) this would
>of course be something I think would solve problems, but it also could
>increase load, bandwidth, etc.
>  
>
I don't suppose there's a way to mirror a newsgroup like this in a threaded-forum (that is better then the one on digitalmars)?

>Of course, with that people still don't read things - but sometimes you do
>get lucky, and moderation is easier ;).
>
>-[Unknown]
>

-- 
-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/
April 22, 2004
J C Calvarese wrote:

>> Please don't!
>> the dsource.org forums are unreadable.
>>
>> Ant
>
>
> How are they "unreadable"?
>
> And there's a search function. That's more than the web interface can claim.

I know what you mean, but here's my 2cents anyway.  With all the forums I've tried they:
1) are slower then a newsgroup (because it's a webpage of course)
2) don't show as many entries at once.  It would be very hard to view the entire D newsgroup quickly as you'd have to keep clicking and clicking. (Sometimes you don't want to use find, you just want to browse).

I think forums are good for small groups but not for large ones.

-- 
-Anderson: http://badmama.com.au/~anderson/
April 22, 2004
J Anderson wrote:

> J C Calvarese wrote:
> 
>>> Please don't!
>>> the dsource.org forums are unreadable.
>>>
>>> Ant
>>
>>
>>
>> How are they "unreadable"?
>>
>> And there's a search function. That's more than the web interface can claim.
> 
> 
> I know what you mean, but here's my 2cents anyway.  With all the forums I've tried they:
> 1) are slower then a newsgroup (because it's a webpage of course)
> 2) don't show as many entries at once.  It would be very hard to view the entire D newsgroup quickly as you'd have to keep clicking and clicking. (Sometimes you don't want to use find, you just want to browse).
> 
> I think forums are good for small groups but not for large ones.
> 

These are specifically problems with threaded forums, because the way of doing it can just be... slower.  This is one of the reasons for more flat forum systems.

-[Unknown]
April 22, 2004
J Anderson wrote:

> I don't suppose there's a way to mirror a newsgroup like this in a threaded-forum (that is better then the one on digitalmars)?

I'm not sure if there is, but I would expect there is.  An example of an implementation I've seen is this:

http://news.php.net/

But of course it has no searching tool.... this is something that cannot be done well without proper database, indexing, etc.  What might be possible is to mirror the messages, but then advanced moderation and editing tools would be... problematic.

-[Unknown]
April 22, 2004
In article <c67533$30e8$1@digitaldaemon.com>, J Anderson says...
>
>J C Calvarese wrote:
>
>>> Please don't!
>>> the dsource.org forums are unreadable.
>>>
>>> Ant
>>
>>
>> How are they "unreadable"?
>>
>> And there's a search function. That's more than the web interface can claim.
>
>I know what you mean, but here's my 2cents anyway.  With all the forums
>I've tried they:
>1) are slower then a newsgroup (because it's a webpage of course)
>2) don't show as many entries at once.  It would be very hard to view
>the entire D newsgroup quickly as you'd have to keep clicking and
>clicking. (Sometimes you don't want to use find, you just want to browse).
>
>I think forums are good for small groups but not for large ones.

They lack a simple list of the post headers.

Ant
PS yes I posted this twice