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Should D1 only bugs be closed?
Feb 09, 2013
Peter Alexander
Feb 09, 2013
Andrej Mitrovic
Feb 09, 2013
Russel Winder
Feb 09, 2013
Andrej Mitrovic
Feb 09, 2013
Russel Winder
Feb 09, 2013
David Nadlinger
Feb 09, 2013
Walter Bright
Feb 09, 2013
Peter Alexander
Feb 09, 2013
Walter Bright
Feb 09, 2013
Andrej Mitrovic
Feb 09, 2013
Peter Alexander
Feb 10, 2013
David Nadlinger
Feb 10, 2013
David Nadlinger
Feb 10, 2013
Miles Stoudenmire
Feb 09, 2013
Marco Leise
Feb 09, 2013
Peter Alexander
Feb 10, 2013
Marco Leise
Feb 10, 2013
Peter Alexander
Feb 09, 2013
Walter Bright
Feb 10, 2013
Jonathan M Davis
February 09, 2013
Quite a few of the older bugs are D1 only. Given that D1 is no longer supported, should these just be closed?

e.g. http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=309
February 09, 2013
On 2/9/13, Peter Alexander <peter.alexander.au@gmail.com> wrote:
> Quite a few of the older bugs are D1 only. Given that D1 is no longer supported, should these just be closed?
>
> e.g. http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=309
>

>From what I can tell bug fixes are still ported to D1, only
enhancements are not.
February 09, 2013
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 17:48 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: […]
> From what I can tell bug fixes are still ported to D1, only enhancements are not.

As of 2013-01-01 D1 is supposed to be having no work done on it. To have the prospect of future D1 releases having said there would be none is giving all the wrong messages.

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February 09, 2013
On 2/9/13, Russel Winder <russel@winder.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 17:48 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: […]
>> From what I can tell bug fixes are still ported to D1, only enhancements are not.
>
> As of 2013-01-01 D1 is supposed to be having no work done on it. To have the prospect of future D1 releases having said there would be none is giving all the wrong messages.

Don't shoot the messenger. :)

Walter is still working on D1, as shown:

https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commits/dmd-1.x

We're all baffled as to why he's still wasting time on D1, when it was agreed we'd stop working on it after December 31st.
February 09, 2013
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 18:30 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: […]
> Don't shoot the messenger. :)

Indeed, sorry for any such behaviour.

(I had thought of getting into some black humour about shootings but
restrained myself.)

> Walter is still working on D1, as shown:
> 
> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commits/dmd-1.x
> 
> We're all baffled as to why he's still wasting time on D1, when it was agreed we'd stop working on it after December 31st.

This sort of thing makes it very hard for those of is trying to market D. There is little enough resource developing D as it is and to have significant amount of it working on dead code, seriously undermines the message.

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February 09, 2013
Am Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:33:39 +0100
schrieb "Peter Alexander" <peter.alexander.au@gmail.com>:

> Quite a few of the older bugs are D1 only. Given that D1 is no longer supported, should these just be closed?
> 
> e.g. http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=309

If people who want or have to stick with D1 make pull requests for bugs they fixed that's good. Just keep them open I'd say unless they require a new feature to be implemented.

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Marco

February 09, 2013
On Saturday, 9 February 2013 at 21:11:36 UTC, Marco Leise wrote:
> If people who want or have to stick with D1 make pull requests
> for bugs they fixed that's good. Just keep them open I'd say
> unless they require a new feature to be implemented.

I thought the point of discontinuing support was so that Walter didn't have to waste time pulling things into the D1 branch and making releases? If he's not going to be doing that then there's no point people making pull requests, and no point having the bugs in the database.

That being said, as Andrej has highlighted above, it appears that D1 in fact has not been discontinued at all. There's still daily activity on that branch, so I'm wondering now what's actually going on?
February 09, 2013
On Saturday, 9 February 2013 at 18:04:29 UTC, Russel Winder wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 18:30 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
>> Walter is still working on D1, as shown:
>> 
>> https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/dmd/commits/dmd-1.x
>> 
>> We're all baffled as to why he's still wasting time on D1, when it was
>> agreed we'd stop working on it after December 31st.
>
> This sort of thing makes it very hard for those of is trying to market
> D. There is little enough resource developing D as it is and to have
> significant amount of it working on dead code, seriously undermines the
> message.

The worst part is that there wasn't even an official announcement regarding the status of D1. The way the situation has been handled so far could be straight out of a »What not to do in project management« handbook.

David
February 09, 2013
On 2/9/2013 8:33 AM, Peter Alexander wrote:
> Quite a few of the older bugs are D1 only. Given that D1 is no longer supported,
> should these just be closed?
>
> e.g. http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=309

No.
February 09, 2013
On 2/9/2013 2:09 PM, David Nadlinger wrote:
> The worst part is that there wasn't even an official announcement regarding the
> status of D1.

D1 is no longer officially supported. There are a couple users of D1 still (like Don), and it would be discourteous to try to purge D1. The point of using git is that branches can exist and be amended if a reason comes up to do so.

> The way the situation has been handled so far could be straight
> out of a »What not to do in project management« handbook.

I don't see how anyone has been damaged or even inconvenienced here.



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