Derek Parnell <derek@psych.ward> wrote:

[...]
> Me thinks ye are a dour sort.
> 
> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=fun
> 
> Its only a bunch of guys sitting around after work
[...]

Nice. Now I understand, why Walter stopped editing the news-column. I invite you to help D with your wisdom by categorizing threads or only single posts as what you think they are.

This "would be a big boost to the D community" as Walter said.

-manfred

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:32:28 +0000 (UTC), Manfred Nowak wrote:

> Derek Parnell <derek@psych.ward> wrote:
> 
> [...]
>> Me thinks ye are a dour sort.
>> 
>> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=fun
>> 
>> Its only a bunch of guys sitting around after work
> [...]
> 
> Nice. Now I understand, why Walter stopped editing the news-column. I invite you to help D with your wisdom by categorizing threads or only single posts as what you think they are.

You talking to me or the community in general? I'll assume its me for the moment.

So...Thank you for this great honour, and vote of confidence in my editorial prowess. But it is with a heavy heart that I must decline your most generous offer. If not for the weight of the world impinging on my already crowded lifestyle, I would jump, nay, rush headlong, in to the role of Advisor to the D News Editor. I can not think of a greater accolade. But with respect good sir, I can perceive in these few missive of yours already, that your editorial skills are more than a match for the task at hand. I bid you 'Fine Sailing'.

Now *that* was an example of 'rubbish'.

Would you also like an example of 'chaff'?

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
13/03/2005 12:13:43 AM

Derek Parnell says...
>
>On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 08:32:28 +0000 (UTC), Manfred Nowak wrote:
>
>> Derek Parnell <derek@psych.ward> wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>>> Me thinks ye are a dour sort.
>>> 
>>> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn?stage=1&word=fun
>>> 
>>> Its only a bunch of guys sitting around after work
>> [...]
>> 
>> Nice. Now I understand, why Walter stopped editing the news-column. I invite you to help D with your wisdom by categorizing threads or only single posts as what you think they are.
>
>You talking to me or the community in general? I'll assume its me for the moment.
>
>So...Thank you for this great honour, and vote of confidence in my editorial prowess. But it is with a heavy heart that I must decline your most generous offer. If not for the weight of the world impinging on my already crowded lifestyle, I would jump, nay, rush headlong, in to the role of Advisor to the D News Editor. I can not think of a greater accolade. But with respect good sir, I can perceive in these few missive of yours already, that your editorial skills are more than a match for the task at hand. I bid you 'Fine Sailing'.
>
>Now *that* was an example of 'rubbish'.
>
>Would you also like an example of 'chaff'?

I don't care what anybody says, that's funny!  ha ha ha ha!  Wait, let me laugh in Spanish: ja ja ja ja! :-) I didn't know you folks down-under had a sense of humor, Derek?  Ha ha ha ha!  Just kidding man. :-)

josé

Walter wrote:
> "Georg Wrede" <georg.wrede@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:422C8705.3010000@nospam.org...
> 
>>We cannot afford to keep things like this. Period.
>>
>>In a newcomers eye, this sticks out so bad, he'll think the rest of the
>>language is the same. _We_ know it's not, but how do you convince them?
> 
> Javascript does it just that way, too.

So?

Your answer was below the belt.

That's just something a language should not do.

Georg Wrede wrote:

>> Javascript does it just that way, too.
> 
> So?
> 
> Your answer was below the belt.
> 
> That's just something a language should not do.

The kicker was that JavaScript doesn't either...
(neither does Java, Perl, or any other I know of)


About the only thing that does, is C++/STL "map":

http://www.sgi.com/tech/stl/Map.html#3

> data_type& operator[](const key_type& k)
>
> Returns a reference to the object that is associated with a particular
> key. If the map does not already contain such an object, operator[]
> inserts the default object data_type(). 


Still, it should at least set it to the .init value !
And I myself would prefer the new key to *not* get added,
my rationale was that it is just a uninitialized value...

Sorta like a dynamic array, after you set a big .length.


Matthew (and others) meant that it was an OutOfBounds ?
(and thus should throw an exception, in debugging builds)
This in turn depends on the definition of an AA's "bounds".

Is it a) the current keys b) every possible key value

--anders