May 17, 2005
bobef wrote:
> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
> 
>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>
>>-DavidM
> 
> 
> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
> 
> 

quite a prescient cringe.
May 17, 2005
bobef wrote:
> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
> 
>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>
>>-DavidM
> 
> 
> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no
> reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like
> people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making
> weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people
> with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
> 
> 

Then... I suggest you refuse all the good things of this life and lock yourself up.  All things you enjoy now are available because some men took it upon themselves to resist those that would take such things away.

War is a sickeningly horrible thing... but sticking your head in the sand won't make it go away.

Just an opinion.  You have a right to yours, but I suggest you be very careful how you voice it.

Hitler loves people like you.  It made his job easier.

-JJR

May 17, 2005
bobef wrote:
> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
> 
>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>
>>-DavidM
> 
> 
> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no
> reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like
> people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making
> weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people
> with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
> 
> 
A bit short sighted maybe...
May 17, 2005
bobef, i wouldn't dare claim something like that without supporting facts - have you benchmarked ? Have you some proof?

I am multiplatform developer for years and work with different Windows, Linux and UNIX (including MacOS) configurations on daily basis and I really would never say something like You've just said... :)

Maybe You were dreaming about Windows running faster than Linux, or maybe You were drunk, or maybe You've installed all possible services on RedHat (which made your machine near to die) ...

-- 
...........
Dejan Lekic
  http://dejan.lekic.org

May 17, 2005
bobef wrote:

> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
> 
>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>
>>-DavidM
> 
> 
> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no
> reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like
> people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making
> weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people
> with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
> 
> 
(sorry for the diversion here)

Well I guess we are all young and ignorant at some point.

Perhaps one day bobef will realize that military force is exactly what allows him to post such nonsense and to decide what license to apply to his property.

Maybe at some point in the future bobef will lose the freedoms he takes for granted, or perhaps just begin appreciate the presence of people better than himself who chose to defend his liberties.

I will leave you on your journey down that river in Egypt...
-DavidM
May 17, 2005
bobef wrote:
> In article <d6d0vg$34v$1@digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
> 
>>Nice looking project... but your license is totally bizarre... and would alienate every potential user on this planet in some form or another, including yourself -- see "unwanted users."
>>
> 
> 
> 
> Yes I know :( I will rewrite the license these days. I just wrote some things I
> don't like and I named people doing them "unwanted users" :) But it is free for
> anybody you know. I don't want to stop anyone from using it... Exept military of
> course :)
> 
> 

What's so sad is that an appreciation for your skills can be lost so quickly when you introduce philosophical opinions like this into your work.  Poof!  Suddenly the camaraderie of the developer world is gone.

It's best to stay away from displaying your opinions so readily.  You might find people more receptive if you kept such opinions for more discerning occasions.  I really think you are setting yourself up for disaster.  I hope you are thick skinned because your introduction went very badly.

-JJR
May 17, 2005
John Reimer wrote:

> bobef wrote:
>> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
>> 
>>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>>
>>>-DavidM
>> 
>> 
>> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
>> 

> War is a sickeningly horrible thing... but sticking your head in the sand won't make it go away.

Well, he ain't sticking his head in the sand, that's for sure...

BTW, did everyone just lose it? I'm feeling really strong about this subject, but I wouldn't dream about making such statements (meaning the entire range of statements) in this group. The linux part is somewhat more connected, but still.

Lars Ivar Igesund




May 17, 2005
"Lars Ivar Igesund" <larsivar@igesund.net> wrote in message news:d6dj2b$k1a$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> John Reimer wrote:
>
>> bobef wrote:
>>> In article <d6d21a$44p$1@digitaldaemon.com>, David Medlock says...
>>>
>>>>Just out of curiousity why would you wish to keep millitary users from using it?  (I cringe for the expected answer).
>>>>
>>>>-DavidM
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't like people dropping bombs and killing other people for money (i.e. no reason). I don't like people who doesn't use their brains for good. I don't like people who are destroying good and particulary our planet. I don't people making weapons instead of something good. I don't like people controlling other people with force. And some other things too. This all applies to militaries.
>>>
>
>> War is a sickeningly horrible thing... but sticking your head in the sand won't make it go away.
>
> Well, he ain't sticking his head in the sand, that's for sure...
>
> BTW, did everyone just lose it? I'm feeling really strong about this subject, but I wouldn't dream about making such statements (meaning the entire range of statements) in this group. The linux part is somewhat more connected, but still.
>
> Lars Ivar Igesund

I was really impressed with the akIDE web site until I read the content :-P I hope he rewords some the content on there to be less of a flame. That license is ... unusual. It actually gave me a chuckle.


May 17, 2005
Ben Hinkle wrote:
> 
> I was really impressed with the akIDE web site until I read the content :-P I hope he rewords some the content on there to be less of a flame. That license is ... unusual. It actually gave me a chuckle.
> 
> 

http://www.lessequal.com/akide/terms.html

football hooligans beware...
May 17, 2005
In article <d6d8kq$a2s$1@digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
>
>bobef wrote:
>> In article <d6d0vg$34v$1@digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
>> 
>>>Nice looking project... but your license is totally bizarre... and would alienate every potential user on this planet in some form or another, including yourself -- see "unwanted users."
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes I know :( I will rewrite the license these days. I just wrote some things I don't like and I named people doing them "unwanted users" :) But it is free for anybody you know. I don't want to stop anyone from using it... Exept military of course :)
>> 
>> 
>
>What's so sad is that an appreciation for your skills can be lost so quickly when you introduce philosophical opinions like this into your work.  Poof!  Suddenly the camaraderie of the developer world is gone.
>
>It's best to stay away from displaying your opinions so readily.  You might find people more receptive if you kept such opinions for more discerning occasions.  I really think you are setting yourself up for disaster.  I hope you are thick skinned because your introduction went very badly.
>
>-JJR

Telling my opinion is important for me. I am what I am because I have one. I don't care if someone likes it or not. I do this program because *I* need it. I will be more than happy if it usefull for someone else and will be happy to make it suitable for more people. But if my program tomorow is used to write new NASA (or whatever) software that will guide their atom bombs I prefer to smash my computer and never develop anything again!


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