Why not share here where all can benefit ?  I'd personally like to know :).

Charlie


"Kris" <fu@bar.com> wrote in message news:dpf797$1hg7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
> "Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote
> > Sure:
>
> Thx
>
>

Charles wrote:

> Why not share here where all can benefit ?  I'd personally like to know :).
> 
> Charlie
> 
> 
> "Kris" <fu@bar.com> wrote in message news:dpf797$1hg7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> "Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote
>> > Sure:
>>
>> Thx
>>
>>

I suppose either Kris' or his company's opinions on the subject shouldn't be exposed in the public.

Lars Ivar Igesund

rko wrote:
> problems
> debugging !!!
> c lib reuse !!
> easy gui development !!!
> phobos should be developed to something like .net or java frameworks !!!!!
> reuse of c++ libs !!!
> 
> those are the killer at my end, where i can only be boss and yell DO. probably
> that will kill me in our project using D.
> 
> rko
> 
> 


I completly agree with this line:
phobos should be developed to something like .net or java frameworks !!!!!

"Lars Ivar Igesund" <larsivar@igesund.net> wrote ...
> Charles wrote:
>
>> Why not share here where all can benefit ?  I'd personally like to know :).
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>> "Kris" <fu@bar.com> wrote in message news:dpf797$1hg7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>> "Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote
>>> > Sure:
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>>
>
> I suppose either Kris' or his company's opinions on the subject shouldn't
> be
> exposed in the public.

The latter ~ I'm quite generous with my own opinion :)

Sorry, Charlie.

Kris wrote:

> 
> "Lars Ivar Igesund" <larsivar@igesund.net> wrote ...
>> Charles wrote:
>>
>>> Why not share here where all can benefit ?  I'd personally like to know :).
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kris" <fu@bar.com> wrote in message news:dpf797$1hg7$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>>>> "Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote
>>>> > Sure:
>>>>
>>>> Thx
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> I suppose either Kris' or his company's opinions on the subject shouldn't
>> be
>> exposed in the public.
> 
> The latter ~ I'm quite generous with my own opinion :)
> 
> Sorry, Charlie.

I was sortof thinking of your opinion on your company's opinion ;)

Don Clugston wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> 
>> What else is stopping the adoption of D where you work (Kris and anyone else)?
> 
> 
> The fact that D cannot use third party DLLs that only come with COFF import libs. No kidding. It's an absolute show stopper.
> Walters last post to this newsgroup has changed this situation completely. Bye-bye C++.
> 
> (But I'm not really a programmer, it's only a small part of what I do. I'm employed for my knowledge of semiconductor device physics. My choice of programming language doesn't get much more attention than my choice of soldering iron. Noone has looked at any of my source code for about five years).

No wonder you're a mathematical template-programming freak! =P  (This is a good thing).  We need someone knowledgeable about numerical analysis to come in and fix the implementation and usage of floating point. Walter's already got a great start by separating real and ireal; now we need to propogate that down the line through the standard library/ies.

John Reimer wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> 
>> What else is stopping the adoption of D where you work (Kris and anyone else)?
>>
> 
> Ummm... Microsoft?
> 
> 

Same here too.  I've inquired about the reasons for the choice of platform (.NET).  The answer boiled down to:

1) It's cheap through MSDN.
2) We're a Microsoft shop.  We know MS SQL 2000, we know C# - the two work together with minimal pain.

This is not MY opinion, mind you... ;)

James Dunne wrote:
> Don Clugston wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>>
>>> What else is stopping the adoption of D where you work (Kris and anyone else)?
>>
>>
>> The fact that D cannot use third party DLLs that only come with COFF import libs. No kidding. It's an absolute show stopper.
>> Walters last post to this newsgroup has changed this situation completely. Bye-bye C++.
>>
>> (But I'm not really a programmer, it's only a small part of what I do. I'm employed for my knowledge of semiconductor device physics. My choice of programming language doesn't get much more attention than my choice of soldering iron. Noone has looked at any of my source code for about five years).
> 
> No wonder you're a mathematical template-programming freak! =P  (This is a good thing).  We need someone knowledgeable about numerical analysis to come in and fix the implementation and usage of floating point. Walter's already got a great start by separating real and ireal; now we need to propogate that down the line through the standard library/ies.


Ben Hinkle has been around for awhile too... Mathematics seems to be his background training (he has some Phd degree or something... you know, "Post-hole digger"?) ;).  But I don't know how much involvement he had in working on these things although he's contributed much to D.

-JJR

John Reimer wrote:
> James Dunne wrote:
> 
>> Don Clugston wrote:
>>
>>> Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>> What else is stopping the adoption of D where you work (Kris and anyone else)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The fact that D cannot use third party DLLs that only come with COFF import libs. No kidding. It's an absolute show stopper.
>>> Walters last post to this newsgroup has changed this situation completely. Bye-bye C++.
>>>
>>> (But I'm not really a programmer, it's only a small part of what I do. I'm employed for my knowledge of semiconductor device physics. My choice of programming language doesn't get much more attention than my choice of soldering iron. Noone has looked at any of my source code for about five years).
>>
>>
>> No wonder you're a mathematical template-programming freak! =P  (This is a good thing).  We need someone knowledgeable about numerical analysis to come in and fix the implementation and usage of floating point. Walter's already got a great start by separating real and ireal; now we need to propogate that down the line through the standard library/ies.
> 
> 
> 
> Ben Hinkle has been around for awhile too... Mathematics seems to be his background training (he has some Phd degree or something... you know, "Post-hole digger"?) ;).  But I don't know how much involvement he had in working on these things although he's contributed much to D.
> 
> -JJR

Didn't mean to single anybody out.  Yes, Ben Hinkle is also quite the contributor, but as of the last month or so, Don has really gotten quite excited about template meta-programming.  Just an observation :)

In article <dpulrv$eo1$1@digitaldaemon.com>, John Reimer says...
>
>Ben Hinkle has been around for awhile too... Mathematics seems to be his background training (he has some Phd degree or something... you know, "Post-hole digger"?) ;).  But I don't know how much involvement he had in working on these things although he's contributed much to D.
>

"Post-hole digger", LOL.

I've always been told it /really/ means "Piled higher and Deeper". <g>

B.S. - just that
M.S. - More of the Same
PhD. - Piled higher and Deeper

>-JJR