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February 10, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
"Knud Sørensen" <12tkvvb02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message 
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> Is that your only reason for the non-distribute license ??

No. There are several reasons, one of which is that the back end is 
licensed.
February 10, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
Derek Parnell wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:43:51 +1100, Walter Bright 
> <newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> 
>> I personally don't like installers - not because they do a bad job, but
>> because
>> I never know *what* they're doing to my system.
> 
> Agreed, that is your personal opinion. Other people have different and 
> just as valid opinions.
> 
>> Are they mucking with the
>> registry? Installing spyware? Replacing uptodate drivers with older, 
>> buggy
>> versions? Phoning home?
> 
> Not all installers are equal. Some at least do let you know precicely 
> what's about to happen etc...
> 
>> With zip files, I can see what's going to happen, and my unzipper isn't
>> going to execute any code from the archive.
> 
> Yes you can, even if its not what you want to happen. For example, 
> replace sc.ini even when its been updated locally. The read-only hack is 
> a big hassle because some files you do want to replace and others you 
> don't!
> 
>> In keeping with avoiding an installer, dmd is designed to not require any
>> registry entries, environment variable edits, or even having the PATH 
>> set.
>> Uninstall is as easy as just blowing away the directory it's installed 
>> in.
> 
> Some people see a standard installer as a sign of maturity for a product.
> 
> I'll knock up an install package and send it to you for inspection.
> 
> --Derek Parnell
> Melbourne, Australia

I agree that an installer is a sign of... maybe not maturity, but definitely of solid support and polished presence.
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
"Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message 
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> Being updated to fix some quirks on FC4,
> since recls/stlsoft doesn't support GCC4...

There are some new functions in std.file that might serve.
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
"Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message 
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> Well, if you ever change your mind - here are the scripts to make EXE:
> (readable as-is, but for use with NSIS : http://nsis.sourceforge.net/)

Thanks!
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
In article <dsj8rl$2lfa$1@digitaldaemon.com>,
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_F_Bj=F6rklund?= says...
>
>I will use RPMs and EXEs for GDC, but you can do as you want with DMD.
>Just let us now if you need some help with setting the automation up ?
>

Wondering if David Friedman would host a link to these on his site, or if it's
ever been discussed?

One stop shopping and all that...

Thanks,

- Dave

>--anders
>
>PS.
>The RPM spec to "rpmbuild -bb" RPMS is at:
>http://www.algonet.se/~afb/d/dmd.spec
>
>Being updated to fix some quirks on FC4,
>since recls/stlsoft doesn't support GCC4...
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:22:38 +1100, Walter Bright  
<newshound@digitalmars.com> wrote:

>
> "Anders F Björklund" <afb@algonet.se> wrote in message
> news:dsj8rl$2lfa$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Well, if you ever change your mind - here are the scripts to make EXE:
>> (readable as-is, but for use with NSIS : http://nsis.sourceforge.net/)
>
> Thanks!
>

Ok, it looks like AB beat me to it. I was going to go via NSIS too.

-- 
Derek Parnell
Melbourne, Australia
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
"Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message 
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> Wondering if David Friedman would host a link to these on his site, or if 
> it's
> ever been discussed?
>
> One stop shopping and all that...

Ask him!
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
In article <dsjq1j$5rv$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>
>"Dave" <Dave_member@pathlink.com> wrote in message 
>news:dsjhau$2rdi$1@digitaldaemon.com...
>> Wondering if David Friedman would host a link to these on his site, or if 
>> it's
>> ever been discussed?
>>
>> One stop shopping and all that...
>
>Ask him! 
>

I don't know if Linux links are available yet and/or didn't see them posted here
(the ? was directed at Anders - for all I know they've already discussed it).

Anders? David?
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0
cletuspaul wrote:
> D seems sufficiently mature that a Release 1.0 should be finalized now, rather
> than waiting to iron out all of the little kinks.
> 
> Many other languages started life as rough and messy hatchlings, only to mature
> later.  Pascal did not get wings until Borlad invested time and resources on it.
> So it is time for a Release 1.0 -- later on we can remove the warts and pimples.
> 

I'd give D another year before it should really start thinking about 
1.0. Stall the beta process longer to get the compiler stable and get 
all the easy features in, also give a chance for the libraries to become 
a little more useful (DWT, etc.) before going 1.0.
February 11, 2006
Re: Time to release 1.0 (installers)
Dave wrote:

>>>Wondering if David Friedman would host a link to these on his site, or if 
>>>it's ever been discussed?
>>>
>>>One stop shopping and all that...
>>
>>Ask him! 
> 
> I don't know if Linux links are available yet and/or didn't see them posted here
> (the ? was directed at Anders - for all I know they've already discussed it).
> 
> Anders? David?

Waiting for David to set up the new SourceForge site,
so that I wouldn't have to move all the binaries later.

Building for MinGW is quite new to me, but the RPMS
have been building against the system for some time.


We could still use a highpower D community site, as
has been mentioned recently - with both binaries and
documentation and so on. Like a central place for GDC ?

I'm away next week, but have posted all the sources.

--anders
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