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April 07, 2006
MSN protocol filtering words
Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
opinions on the next.

From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of 
Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but 
to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice 
other than use the protocol.

Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be 
to someone else.

Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which 
makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the 
word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free 
(www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some 
message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other 
peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this 
sucks!

This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare 
and sad true.

Does anyone know something on the subject?

Regards,
--
Tom;
Buenos Aires, Argentina
April 08, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:

> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
> opinions on the next.
> 
>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
> least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of 
> Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, 
> but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice 
> other than use the protocol.
> 
> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be 
> to someone else.
> 
> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
> not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
> client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
> certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
> which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
> with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload 
> for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in 
> some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the 
> other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
> 
> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
> of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
> something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
> countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare 
> and sad true.
> 
> Does anyone know something on the subject?
> 
> Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't 
have any idea why he was posting his BS here.

-S.
April 08, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
S. Chancellor escribió:
> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
> 
>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
>> opinions on the next.
>>
>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
>> least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
>> of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
>> :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
>> choice other than use the protocol.
>>
>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
>> be to someone else.
>>
>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
>> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
>> not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
>> client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
>> certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
>> which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
>> with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
>> upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
>> appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
>> received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
>> bug, can it?
>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
>> this sucks!
>>
>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
>> of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
>> something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
>> countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
>> bare and sad true.
>>
>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>
>> Regards,
> 
> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have 
> any idea why he was posting his BS here.
> 
> -S.
> 

Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. 
Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I 
was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.

Tom;
April 08, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>
>S. Chancellor escribió:
>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>> 
>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
>>> opinions on the next.
>>>
>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
>>> least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
>>> of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
>>> :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
>>> choice other than use the protocol.
>>>
>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
>>> be to someone else.
>>>
>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
>>> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
>>> not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
>>> client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
>>> certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
>>> which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
>>> with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
>>> upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
>>> appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
>>> received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
>>> bug, can it?
>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
>>> this sucks!
>>>
>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
>>> of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
>>> something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
>>> countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
>>> bare and sad true.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>> 
>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have 
>> any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>> 
>> -S.
>> 
>
>Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. 
>Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I 
>was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>
>Tom;


Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try
posting there?

Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.

-JJR
April 08, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
John Reimer escribió:
> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
>>>> opinions on the next.
>>>>
>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at 
>>>> least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common 
>>>> of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them 
>>>> :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no 
>>>> choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can 
>>>> be to someone else.
>>>>
>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
>>>> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a 
>>>> not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their 
>>>> client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain 
>>>> certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services 
>>>> which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself 
>>>> with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo 
>>>> upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" 
>>>> appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not 
>>>> received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a 
>>>> bug, can it?
>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
>>>> this sucks!
>>>>
>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense 
>>>> of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is 
>>>> something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some 
>>>> countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the 
>>>> bare and sad true.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have 
>>> any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>
>>> -S.
>>>
>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. 
>> Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I 
>> was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>>
>> Tom;
> 
> 
> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try
> posting there?
> 
> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
> 
> -JJR

As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip 
 JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with 
Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).

Tom;
April 09, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
Tom wrote:
> John Reimer escribió:
> 
>> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>>
>>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>>
>>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
>>>>> opinions on the next.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, 
>>>>> at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the 
>>>>> common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one 
>>>>> of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, 
>>>>> I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it 
>>>>> can be to someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS 
>>>>> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of 
>>>>> a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to 
>>>>> their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that 
>>>>> contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some 
>>>>> services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the 
>>>>> test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that 
>>>>> offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word 
>>>>> "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but 
>>>>> currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this 
>>>>> can't be just a bug, can it?
>>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
>>>>> this sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the 
>>>>> sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if 
>>>>> this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for 
>>>>> some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's 
>>>>> the bare and sad true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't 
>>>> have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>>
>>>> -S.
>>>>
>>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling 
>>> anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted 
>>> here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of 
>>> issues in MSN protocol.
>>>
>>> Tom;
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  
>> Can you try
>> posting there?
>>
>> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
>>
>> -JJR
> 
> 
> As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip 
>  JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with 
> Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).
> 
> Tom;

What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM 
and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime.

-- 
Regards,
James Dunne
April 09, 2006
Re: MSN protocol filtering words
James Dunne wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> 
>> John Reimer escribió:
>>
>>> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>>>
>>>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your 
>>>>>> opinions on the next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, 
>>>>>> at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the 
>>>>>> common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one 
>>>>>> of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, 
>>>>>> I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it 
>>>>>> can be to someone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of 
>>>>>> CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning 
>>>>>> everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what 
>>>>>> concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter 
>>>>>> messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages 
>>>>>> that offers some services which makes competition to them (I 
>>>>>> guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This 
>>>>>> is a web page that offers photo upload for free 
>>>>>> (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in 
>>>>>> some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by 
>>>>>> the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
>>>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but 
>>>>>> this sucks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the 
>>>>>> sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know 
>>>>>> if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific 
>>>>>> for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and 
>>>>>> it's the bare and sad true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't 
>>>>> have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>>>
>>>>> -S.
>>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling 
>>>> anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted 
>>>> here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of 
>>>> issues in MSN protocol.
>>>>
>>>> Tom;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  
>>> Can you try
>>> posting there?
>>>
>>> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
>>>
>>> -JJR
>>
>>
>>
>> As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the 
>> tip  JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with 
>> Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).
>>
>> Tom;
> 
> 
> What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM 
> and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime.
> 

These are among the reasons I prefer third party clients such as Trillian.

-- Chris Nicholson-Sauls
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