Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.

From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.

Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.

Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!

This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.

Does anyone know something on the subject?

Regards,
--
Tom;
Buenos Aires, Argentina

On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:

> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
> 
>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.
> 
> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
> 
> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
> 
> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
> 
> Does anyone know something on the subject?
> 
> Regards,

Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.

-S.

S. Chancellor escribió:
> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
> 
>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
>>
>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>
>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
>>
>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
>>
>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
>>
>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>
>> Regards,
> 
> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
> 
> -S.
> 

Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.

Tom;

In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>
>S. Chancellor escribió:
>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>> 
>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
>>>
>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at
>>> least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common
>>> of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them
>>> :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no
>>> choice other than use the protocol.
>>>
>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
>>>
>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS
>>> Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a
>>> not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their
>>> client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain
>>> certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services
>>> which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself
>>> with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo
>>> upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto"
>>> appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not
>>> received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a
>>> bug, can it?
>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but
>>> this sucks!
>>>
>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>> 
>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>> 
>> -S.
>> 
>
>Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>
>Tom;


Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try posting there?

Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.

-JJR

John Reimer escribió:
> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
>>>>
>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
>>>>
>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
>>>>
>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>
>>> -S.
>>>
>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>>
>> Tom;
> 
> 
> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try
> posting there?
> 
> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
> 
> -JJR

As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip  JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).

Tom;

Tom wrote:
> John Reimer escribió:
> 
>> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>>
>>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>>
>>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
>>>>>
>>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
>>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>>
>>>> -S.
>>>>
>>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>>>
>>> Tom;
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try
>> posting there?
>>
>> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
>>
>> -JJR
> 
> 
> As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip  JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).
> 
> Tom;

What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime.

-- 
Regards,
James Dunne

James Dunne wrote:
> Tom wrote:
> 
>> John Reimer escribió:
>>
>>> In article <e177l4$kgk$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Tom says...
>>>
>>>> S. Chancellor escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2006-04-07 16:44:59 -0700, Tom <ihate@spam.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everybody. Sorry about the noise but I wish to know about your opinions on the next.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From time to time, I use MSN protocol for communicating because, at least here in Argentina, it's the most popular client for the common of Argentine guys and girls. Not that I consider myself one of them :P, but to be online with the most of my not-nerd friends, I have no choice other than use the protocol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe this isn't new to everybody, but it was for me today as it can be to someone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today I've read some mail I receive daily from a mailing list of CS Students of the University where I study (UBA), warning everyone of a not-very-honest behavior of the MS people in what concerns to their client/protocol "MSN Messenger". They do filter messages that contain certain words, apparently from web pages that offers some services which makes competition to them (I guess). I've made the test myself with the word "subitufoto". This is a web page that offers photo upload for free (www.subitufoto.com.ar). When the word "subitufoto" appears in some message it is apparently sent but currently not received by the other peer. I may be naive but this can't be just a bug, can it?
>>>>>> We never know what other words are being filtered/recorded/etc but this sucks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This makes me distrust profoundly of MSN from now on (not in the sense of confidentiality which it naturally lacks). I don't know if this is something geographically dependent (i.e. only specific for some countries or languages), but I've certainly tested it and it's the bare and sad true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know something on the subject?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wow, that's some amazing spam.  Almost fooled me, although I didn't have any idea why he was posting his BS here.
>>>>>
>>>>> -S.
>>>>>
>>>> Are you serious? What kind of spam would that be? Not selling anything. Don't be ridiculous please. Maybe I shouldn't had posted here. Sorry, I was just looking if someone knew about that kind of issues in MSN protocol.
>>>>
>>>> Tom;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom... I imagine that your post would be appropriate for c++.chat.  Can you try
>>> posting there?
>>>
>>> Interesting about MSN, if it's true. I've never heard of that problem.
>>>
>>> -JJR
>>
>>
>>
>> As I said before, I shouldn't had posted here, sorry, thanks for the tip  JJR. And yes, believe me, it's true (I've captured packets with Ethereal and used GAIM as client and it's all the same).
>>
>> Tom;
> 
> 
> What's even more scary are the EULAs you agreed to while installing AIM and MSN messenger... go check them again sometime.
> 

These are among the reasons I prefer third party clients such as Trillian.

-- Chris Nicholson-Sauls