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May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
lightoze wrote:
>> There are no brief, pretty, available, and relevant names that I can find.
> 
> What about dlang.org?

Not pretty :-(
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
jcc7 wrote:
> In article <e3qf2b$2s5m$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
<snip>
>> The simplest answer (to J-M's question at least) is to finally confer 
>> official status on
>>
>> http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FeatureRequestList
> 
> I think wiki pages can do a good job for tracking and discussing feature
> requests (whether they're declared "official" or not).

Next question: Would declaring it official persuade Walter to pay more 
regular attention to it?

Stewart.

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May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
xs0 wrote:
> Well, I still think d-lang.org would be a much better choice (exactly 
> because it's short), and "-lang" is used in at least 5 other languages, 
> so it's not exactly an odd abbreviation to choose:
> 
> http://www.ruby-lang.org/
> http://www.squirrel-lang.org/
> http://www.onion-lang.org/
> http://www.s-lang.org/
> http://q-lang.sf.net/

Of those, the ruby-lang is a significant data point, the others not. 
There is no java-lang, c-lang, csharp-lang, perl-lang, python-lang, 
etc., so I don't think it's a natural.
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Cool!

Have you decided on a design yet ?

So far it seems to be down to

http://hcoop.net/~natamas/d/template.html
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mockup5ey.jpg
http://dworks.marte.ro/template1.png
http://dworks.marte.ro/template2.png

And logos

http://www.sukimashita.com/d/
http://dworks.marte.ro/logos.png
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?Logo

Walter Bright wrote:
> I've just registered it, so it can be the 'official' D site.
> 
> 1) Why so long?
> 
> Because "D" is un-googlable, there needs to be a reasonably unique, 
> recognizable phrase for it. Nothing works as well as "d programming 
> language". There's no ambiguity about what it's about. Besides, most 
> people will get to the web site via a click, rather than typing it in.
> 
> 
> 2) Why the embedded '-'?
> 
> In my experiments, google doesn't separate dprogramminglanguage into 3 
> words. But it will if there are embedded '-'s.
> 
> 
> 3) Why 'org' instead of 'com'?
> 
> Because the D language itself is not a company, nor is it a proprietary 
> language. Hence, 'org' is the most appropriate for it.
> 
> 
> 4) When will it go live?
> 
> It'll take a couple days at least.
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Carlos wrote:
> Cool!
> 
> Have you decided on a design yet ?

What's wrong with the design we have at the moment?

> So far it seems to be down to
> 
> http://hcoop.net/~natamas/d/template.html
> http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mockup5ey.jpg
> http://dworks.marte.ro/template1.png
> http://dworks.marte.ro/template2.png
<snip top of upside-down reply>

Please, not one that's just a huge graphic!

Seriously, while they may be just what the site might look like and the 
HTML might have not yet been written, web design isn't about graphic 
design.  It's about conveying information in such a way that it is 
accessible to a variety of people in a variety of websurfing environments.

OK, so there is some importance in the visual presentation, but this is 
only secondary to structure and usability.  In order to evaluate visual 
designs for websites, we need to make sure they can be implemented in a 
way that degrades gracefully and preserves accessibility.

Stewart.

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May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Walter Bright wrote:

>>> There are no brief, pretty, available, and relevant names that I can 
>>> find.
>>
>> What about dlang.org?
> 
> Not pretty :-(

I think "d-p-l.org" is available for a shortcut, if a such is required ?
(i.e. not as the real domain, but just redirecting to the longer one...)

Came to think of it since http://www.k-p-l.org/ is an alias for the
http://www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com/, some .NET and BASIC lingo.

--anders
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Stewart Gordon wrote:
> Don Clugston wrote:
>> Stewart Gordon wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Why not use Bugzilla for this?
>>>
>>> A lot of projects that use Bugzilla welcome feature requests through 
>>> it, including all Mozilla projects.  It's why there's an 
>>> 'enhancement' severity level.
>>
>> Walter said that it was an inappropriate forum for discussions about 
>> language features, and I agree with that (language features almost 
>> always require far more discussion than a browser feature). But I 
>> think it makes a lot of sense to put enhancements in Bugzilla once 
>> Walter has given an indication that he'll probably implement it. (I 
>> just did that for what I think is the only proposal I've made that 
>> falls into that category).
> <snip>
> 
> The whole point of Bugzilla is to be able to track the status of bugs 
> and feature requests.  If the only acceptable status for feature 
> requests is "accepted", then this defeats the point.
> 
> My point is that we should be able to track the status of _all_ feature 
> requests, whether Walter has accepted them or not.
> 
> The simplest answer (to J-M's question at least) is to finally confer 
> official status on
> 

Official status? Huh?, who would grant that, and what would than mean??

> http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FeatureRequestList
> 
> Stewart.
> 


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May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Stewart Gordon wrote:
> jcc7 wrote:
>> In article <e3qf2b$2s5m$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
> <snip>
>>> The simplest answer (to J-M's question at least) is to finally confer 
>>> official status on
>>>
>>> http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FeatureRequestList
>>
>> I think wiki pages can do a good job for tracking and discussing feature
>> requests (whether they're declared "official" or not).
> 
> Next question: Would declaring it official persuade Walter to pay more 
> regular attention to it?

Working on new features is not the best thing to do right now. The best 
thing is to work on mowing the bug list, and adding things like better 
debugger support, better documentation, etc.
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Hasan Aljudy wrote:
> 
> Ahh .. Digital Daemon? BSD?
> What's with that?
> 
> http://d-programming-language.org/
> http://www.digitaldaemon.com/


I think that's the host company for his website? :)

-JJR
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
In article <e3qhjf$in$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
>
>jcc7 wrote:
>> In article <e3qf2b$2s5m$1@digitaldaemon.com>, Stewart Gordon says...
><snip>
>>> The simplest answer (to J-M's question at least) is to finally confer 
>>> official status on
>>>
>>> http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?FeatureRequestList
>> 
>> I think wiki pages can do a good job for tracking and discussing feature
>> requests (whether they're declared "official" or not).
>
>Next question: Would declaring it official persuade Walter to pay more 
>regular attention to it?

Has he ever looked at that wiki page anyway? I think Walter is too busy reading
all of the newsgroup posts and e-mails that I'm sure he gets to spend much time
looking at the various wiki pages. ;)

jcc7
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