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May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Walter Bright wrote:
> I've just registered it, so it can be the 'official' D site.
> 
> 1) Why so long?
> 
> Because "D" is un-googlable, there needs to be a reasonably unique, 
> recognizable phrase for it. Nothing works as well as "d programming 
> language". There's no ambiguity about what it's about. Besides, most 
> people will get to the web site via a click, rather than typing it in.
> 
> 
> 2) Why the embedded '-'?
> 
> In my experiments, google doesn't separate dprogramminglanguage into 3 
> words. But it will if there are embedded '-'s.
> 
> 
> 3) Why 'org' instead of 'com'?
> 
> Because the D language itself is not a company, nor is it a proprietary 
> language. Hence, 'org' is the most appropriate for it.
> 
> 
> 4) When will it go live?
> 
> It'll take a couple days at least.

Cool! I don't mind the long name at all, it also has the benefit of 
being the only site I visit that starts with 'd-', and after that 
Firefox's auto-completion kicks in.

Anyway, will this site be a replica of www.digitalmars.com/d , or will 
it be a more community oriented site with tutorials?
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Kyle Furlong wrote:
> Anders F Björklund wrote:

>>> I think that's the host company for his website? :)
>>
>> Seems that way:
>> http://www.digitaldaemon.com/ISP/Hosted_Domains.html
> O M G. He runs it out of his HOUSE? An above ground T1? Anyone else want 
> an actual data center?

Jan's been hosting digitalmars.com for over 6 years now. He's done an 
incredible job. The uptime track record is better than most data centers 
(he kept it up even during the blackouts). It's survived slashdottings 
and diggs with aplomb. And best of all, Jan's service and attention to 
detail has been without peer.

I wouldn't even dream of changing hosting services.
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
www.dprog.org ?

In article <e3qhc7$31b5$2@digitaldaemon.com>, Walter Bright says...
>
>lightoze wrote:
>>> There are no brief, pretty, available, and relevant names that I can find.
>> 
>> What about dlang.org?
>
>Not pretty :-(
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
clayasaurus wrote:
> Anyway, will this site be a replica of www.digitalmars.com/d , or will 
> it be a more community oriented site with tutorials?

I see it as more community oriented, with accounts set up for people who 
want to personally oversee things like the D wiki, etc.
May 09, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Walter Bright wrote:
> Kyle Furlong wrote:
>> Anders F Björklund wrote:
> 
>>>> I think that's the host company for his website? :)
>>>
>>> Seems that way:
>>> http://www.digitaldaemon.com/ISP/Hosted_Domains.html
>> O M G. He runs it out of his HOUSE? An above ground T1? Anyone else 
>> want an actual data center?
> 
> Jan's been hosting digitalmars.com for over 6 years now. He's done an 
> incredible job. The uptime track record is better than most data centers 
> (he kept it up even during the blackouts). It's survived slashdottings 
> and diggs with aplomb. And best of all, Jan's service and attention to 
> detail has been without peer.
> 
> I wouldn't even dream of changing hosting services.

Well, good for him I guess. It just seems less safe to have your cable 
hung near lots of trees in a place that has storms.

-- 
Kyle Furlong // Physics Undergrad, UCSB

"D is going wherever the D community wants it to go." - Walter Bright
May 10, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Anders F Björklund wrote:
<snip>
> Came to think of it since http://www.k-p-l.org/ is an alias for the
> http://www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com/, some .NET and BASIC lingo.

That's about the second place where I've seen the Stars and Stripes 
being labelled as the English flag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Programming_Language

"Jonah Stagner got the idea for KPL as he started to teach his own 
children how to program"

If he's got children of his own, he's probably not a kid himself.  So I 
wonder who the kid is who owns that language....

Stewart.

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May 10, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Walter Bright wrote:
> Stewart Gordon wrote:
<snip>
>> Next question: Would declaring it official persuade Walter to pay more 
>> regular attention to it?
> 
> Working on new features is not the best thing to do right now. The best 
> thing is to work on mowing the bug list, and adding things like better 
> debugger support, better documentation, etc.

Working on new features is one thing.  Commenting on whether they're 
good ideas/likely to be in D in the foreseeable future is quite another.

Stewart.

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PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++++ h-- r-- !y
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------

My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox.  Please keep replies on 
the 'group where everyone may benefit.
May 10, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Stewart Gordon wrote:
> Walter Bright wrote:
>> Stewart Gordon wrote:
> <snip>
>>> Next question: Would declaring it official persuade Walter to pay 
>>> more regular attention to it?
>>
>> Working on new features is not the best thing to do right now. The 
>> best thing is to work on mowing the bug list, and adding things like 
>> better debugger support, better documentation, etc.
> 
> Working on new features is one thing.  Commenting on whether they're 
> good ideas/likely to be in D in the foreseeable future is quite another.

Making such comments is not something I should do lightly.
May 13, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Walter Bright wrote:
> I've just registered it, so it can be the 'official' D site.

Ahhh. I like the new favicon at http://d-programming-language.org. Very 
appropriate.

By the way, I'm kind of hesitant to change my "D Programming Language" 
links to the new URL until there's some actual content there. It's not 
that I don't appreciate the current "placeholder" page as being nice, 
but it'd be great if there were more links (such as the ones mentioned 
on http://www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html) or perhaps even start 
hosting/mirroring the D specification. It especially needs links to 
http://www.dsource.org/ and http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/.

Or if you're waiting for Nick to choose wiki software and set up a wiki, 
that makes sense, too. I'd just hate to loose the momentum of the new 
domain for D because everyone was waiting for someone else to get it 
started. (I'd hate to see http://d-programming-language.org/ become the 
next http://www.gnu-d.org/). ;)

-- 
jcc7
May 13, 2006
Re: new domain: d-programming-language.org
Justin C Calvarese wrote:
> By the way, I'm kind of hesitant to change my "D Programming Language" 
> links to the new URL until there's some actual content there. It's not 
> that I don't appreciate the current "placeholder" page as being nice, 
> but it'd be great if there were more links (such as the ones mentioned 
> on http://www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html) or perhaps even start 
> hosting/mirroring the D specification. It especially needs links to 
> http://www.dsource.org/ and http://home.earthlink.net/~dvdfrdmn/d/.
> 
> Or if you're waiting for Nick to choose wiki software and set up a wiki, 
> that makes sense, too. I'd just hate to loose the momentum of the new 
> domain for D because everyone was waiting for someone else to get it 
> started. (I'd hate to see http://d-programming-language.org/ become the 
> next http://www.gnu-d.org/). ;)

I agree, I've just been lazy.
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