January 09, 2015
On 9/01/2015 2:53 p.m., John Carter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> Whilst we are not currently using D at Tait Electronics....
>
> I am certainly trying to make it happen.
>
> So if this job fits you...
> http://www.taitradio.com/about-us/careers/new-zealand/jobs-in-new-zealand/embedded-software-engineer2
>
> You can help me try!
>
> Part of the problem  with getting a new language accepted in a company,
> is to develop a critical mass of willing and capable programmers in that
> language.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Rikki Cattermole via
> Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com
> <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 9/01/2015 12:10 a.m., Johanna Burgos wrote:
>
>         Your Mission
>
>         Support our team in the development of our event-based
>         infrastructure
>         Development of high-performance applications and services
>         Writing applications to work with our distributed DHT database
>         system
>         You will be coding in the D-language
>
>         Your Track Record
>
>         Degree in Computer Science, or closely-related
>         Knowledge of Github
>         Strong interest in distributed architectures
>         Experienced in C, C++ or D (you’ll be programming in D)
>         Fluency in written and spoken English
>
>         Your Style
>
>         You don’t like being thrown in at the deep end. You like to jump
>         yourself
>         You live and breathe globalization and love to work and travel
>         internationally
>         You mesmerize people with a friendly and open-minded, yet
>         trustworthy
>         and reliable personality
>         You think in achievements, not in departments, responsibilities or
>         hierarchy
>         As a quick learner, first mover and fast thinker you can keep
>         pace with
>         one of the fastest growing technology start ups
>         You are driven by curiosity and innovation, and always up for a good
>         challenge
>
>         Our Promise
>
>         Employment in Berlin, full-time and full of fun challenges, with
>         flexible working hours
>         Access to a high-profile professional network of international
>         Internet
>         companies
>         Possibility to show your excellent competence and your creative
>         ideas to
>         a broad audience
>         A competitive compensation and incentive plan that rocks when
>         you rock
>         Personal development and training that will help you evolve from
>         the pro
>         you are right now to the champ you’re destined to be
>         Basic German language courses for non-native speakers
>         Help with residence permit processing for non-EU citizens
>         Daily adrenalin rushes while working and learning in one of the
>         fastest
>         growing sectors in online advertising
>         Access to an international high-profile network
>         A company culture driven by pioneer-thinking and talent that exceeds
>         departments and hierarchies
>
>
>         The challenge is on. If you think it’s you we’re looking for,
>         send us
>         your battle plan along with a certificate of your super powers at
>         careers@sociomantic.com <mailto:careers@sociomantic.com>.
>         Alternatively, a motivational cover letter and
>         resume in English will do, too. For now.
>
>
>     Unfortunately I half wish you guys had a New Zealand office.
>     As I am in need of a job.
>
>
>
>
> --
> John Carter
> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
> Tait Electronics
> PO Box 1645 Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
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Wow there is actually somebody working right round the corner of me!
I did not expect this.

Out of curiosity how do you guys consider CPIT's Degree in ICT keep in mind that it doesn't cover c/c++. Well until I pushed for D(native) anyway.
January 09, 2015
If you email me at john DOT carter AT taitradio DOT com we can take this conversation out of the D forum as it is going way off topic.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote:

> On 9/01/2015 2:53 p.m., John Carter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
>> Whilst we are not currently using D at Tait Electronics....
>>
>> I am certainly trying to make it happen.
>>
>> So if this job fits you... http://www.taitradio.com/about-us/careers/new-zealand/ jobs-in-new-zealand/embedded-software-engineer2
>>
>> You can help me try!
>>
>> Part of the problem  with getting a new language accepted in a company, is to develop a critical mass of willing and capable programmers in that language.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Rikki Cattermole via Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 9/01/2015 12:10 a.m., Johanna Burgos wrote:
>>
>>         Your Mission
>>
>>         Support our team in the development of our event-based
>>         infrastructure
>>         Development of high-performance applications and services
>>         Writing applications to work with our distributed DHT database
>>         system
>>         You will be coding in the D-language
>>
>>         Your Track Record
>>
>>         Degree in Computer Science, or closely-related
>>         Knowledge of Github
>>         Strong interest in distributed architectures
>>         Experienced in C, C++ or D (you’ll be programming in D)
>>         Fluency in written and spoken English
>>
>>         Your Style
>>
>>         You don’t like being thrown in at the deep end. You like to jump
>>         yourself
>>         You live and breathe globalization and love to work and travel
>>         internationally
>>         You mesmerize people with a friendly and open-minded, yet
>>         trustworthy
>>         and reliable personality
>>         You think in achievements, not in departments, responsibilities or
>>         hierarchy
>>         As a quick learner, first mover and fast thinker you can keep
>>         pace with
>>         one of the fastest growing technology start ups
>>         You are driven by curiosity and innovation, and always up for a
>> good
>>         challenge
>>
>>         Our Promise
>>
>>         Employment in Berlin, full-time and full of fun challenges, with
>>         flexible working hours
>>         Access to a high-profile professional network of international
>>         Internet
>>         companies
>>         Possibility to show your excellent competence and your creative
>>         ideas to
>>         a broad audience
>>         A competitive compensation and incentive plan that rocks when
>>         you rock
>>         Personal development and training that will help you evolve from
>>         the pro
>>         you are right now to the champ you’re destined to be
>>         Basic German language courses for non-native speakers
>>         Help with residence permit processing for non-EU citizens
>>         Daily adrenalin rushes while working and learning in one of the
>>         fastest
>>         growing sectors in online advertising
>>         Access to an international high-profile network
>>         A company culture driven by pioneer-thinking and talent that
>> exceeds
>>         departments and hierarchies
>>
>>
>>         The challenge is on. If you think it’s you we’re looking for,
>>         send us
>>         your battle plan along with a certificate of your super powers at
>>         careers@sociomantic.com <mailto:careers@sociomantic.com>.
>>         Alternatively, a motivational cover letter and
>>         resume in English will do, too. For now.
>>
>>
>>     Unfortunately I half wish you guys had a New Zealand office.
>>     As I am in need of a job.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> John Carter
>> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
>> Tait Electronics
>> PO Box 1645 Christchurch
>> New Zealand
>>
>>
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>>
>
> Wow there is actually somebody working right round the corner of me! I did not expect this.
>
> Out of curiosity how do you guys consider CPIT's Degree in ICT keep in mind that it doesn't cover c/c++. Well until I pushed for D(native) anyway.
>



-- 
John Carter
Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait Electronics
PO Box 1645 Christchurch
New Zealand

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January 12, 2015
On 9/01/2015 4:20 p.m., John Carter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> If you email me at john DOT carter AT taitradio DOT com we can take this
> conversation out of the D forum as it is going way off topic.
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Rikki Cattermole via
> Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com
> <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 9/01/2015 2:53 p.m., John Carter via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
>
>         Whilst we are not currently using D at Tait Electronics....
>
>         I am certainly trying to make it happen.
>
>         So if this job fits you...
>         http://www.taitradio.com/__about-us/careers/new-zealand/__jobs-in-new-zealand/embedded-__software-engineer2
>         <http://www.taitradio.com/about-us/careers/new-zealand/jobs-in-new-zealand/embedded-software-engineer2>
>
>         You can help me try!
>
>         Part of the problem  with getting a new language accepted in a
>         company,
>         is to develop a critical mass of willing and capable programmers
>         in that
>         language.
>
>
>         On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Rikki Cattermole via
>         Digitalmars-d-announce <digitalmars-d-announce@__puremagic.com
>         <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>
>         <mailto:digitalmars-d-__announce@puremagic.com
>         <mailto:digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com>>> wrote:
>
>              On 9/01/2015 12:10 a.m., Johanna Burgos wrote:
>
>                  Your Mission
>
>                  Support our team in the development of our event-based
>                  infrastructure
>                  Development of high-performance applications and services
>                  Writing applications to work with our distributed DHT
>         database
>                  system
>                  You will be coding in the D-language
>
>                  Your Track Record
>
>                  Degree in Computer Science, or closely-related
>                  Knowledge of Github
>                  Strong interest in distributed architectures
>                  Experienced in C, C++ or D (you’ll be programming in D)
>                  Fluency in written and spoken English
>
>                  Your Style
>
>                  You don’t like being thrown in at the deep end. You
>         like to jump
>                  yourself
>                  You live and breathe globalization and love to work and
>         travel
>                  internationally
>                  You mesmerize people with a friendly and open-minded, yet
>                  trustworthy
>                  and reliable personality
>                  You think in achievements, not in departments,
>         responsibilities or
>                  hierarchy
>                  As a quick learner, first mover and fast thinker you
>         can keep
>                  pace with
>                  one of the fastest growing technology start ups
>                  You are driven by curiosity and innovation, and always
>         up for a good
>                  challenge
>
>                  Our Promise
>
>                  Employment in Berlin, full-time and full of fun
>         challenges, with
>                  flexible working hours
>                  Access to a high-profile professional network of
>         international
>                  Internet
>                  companies
>                  Possibility to show your excellent competence and your
>         creative
>                  ideas to
>                  a broad audience
>                  A competitive compensation and incentive plan that
>         rocks when
>                  you rock
>                  Personal development and training that will help you
>         evolve from
>                  the pro
>                  you are right now to the champ you’re destined to be
>                  Basic German language courses for non-native speakers
>                  Help with residence permit processing for non-EU citizens
>                  Daily adrenalin rushes while working and learning in
>         one of the
>                  fastest
>                  growing sectors in online advertising
>                  Access to an international high-profile network
>                  A company culture driven by pioneer-thinking and talent
>         that exceeds
>                  departments and hierarchies
>
>
>                  The challenge is on. If you think it’s you we’re
>         looking for,
>                  send us
>                  your battle plan along with a certificate of your super
>         powers at
>         careers@sociomantic.com <mailto:careers@sociomantic.com>
>         <mailto:careers@sociomantic.__com <mailto:careers@sociomantic.com>>.
>                  Alternatively, a motivational cover letter and
>                  resume in English will do, too. For now.
>
>
>              Unfortunately I half wish you guys had a New Zealand office.
>              As I am in need of a job.
>
>
>
>
>         --
>         John Carter
>         Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
>         Tait Electronics
>         PO Box 1645 Christchurch
>         New Zealand
>
>
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>         recipient. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may
>         be the
>         subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or
>         lost by
>         reason of this transmission.
>         If you are not an intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate,
>         distribute or reproduce such email, any attachments, or any part
>         thereof. If you have received a message in error, please notify the
>         sender immediately and erase all copies of the message and any
>         attachments.
>         Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been
>         altered or
>         corrupted during transmission nor can we guarantee that any
>         email or any
>         attachments are free from computer viruses or other conditions
>         which may
>         damage or interfere with recipient data, hardware or software. The
>         recipient relies upon its own procedures and assumes all risk of
>         use and
>         of opening any attachments.
>         ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------
>
>
>     Wow there is actually somebody working right round the corner of me!
>     I did not expect this.
>
>     Out of curiosity how do you guys consider CPIT's Degree in ICT keep
>     in mind that it doesn't cover c/c++. Well until I pushed for
>     D(native) anyway.
>
>
>
>
> --
> John Carter
> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
> Tait Electronics
> PO Box 1645 Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> recipient. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the
> subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by
> reason of this transmission.
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> distribute or reproduce such email, any attachments, or any part
> thereof. If you have received a message in error, please notify the
> sender immediately and erase all copies of the message and any attachments.
> Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or
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> attachments are free from computer viruses or other conditions which may
> damage or interfere with recipient data, hardware or software. The
> recipient relies upon its own procedures and assumes all risk of use and
> of opening any attachments.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

I haven't heard from you so I'm replying to hopefully ping you.
I'm hoping its something weird with my hosting.
If it is, please let me know at alphaglosined /\ gmail /\ com.
Thanks.
January 13, 2015
Why don't you post this on LinkedIn's "D Developer Network" group?
September 16, 2016
On Thursday, 8 January 2015 at 11:10:09 UTC, Johanna Burgos wrote:



Hi-ya!
We have D-coders(they're really rare persons). We are small software development company, please, visit our page: http://vironit.com/ or just wink me at skype: e.dziatlau.vironit
September 16, 2016
On Friday, 16 September 2016 at 10:38:54 UTC, nnot wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 January 2015 at 11:10:09 UTC, Johanna Burgos wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi-ya!
> We have D-coders(they're really rare persons). We are small software development company, please, visit our page: http://vironit.com/ or just wink me at skype: e.dziatlau.vironit

BTW, there is no D language mentioned in Portfolio/Technology in your company http://vironit.com/portfolio/en/

November 28, 2017
hi there
November 29, 2017
On Thursday, 8 January 2015 at 11:10:09 UTC, Johanna Burgos wrote:
> Your Mission
>

> Your Track Record
>
> Degree in Computer Science, or closely-related
>

It baffles me that recruitment still works using this as a requirement. A CS graduate will never know any of these besides basic intro to C, C++, html, css,  databases,  and basic hardware-software theory... without self learning and practice.

I've never sat in a cs class for a second and I will be bored to death learning these stuff in lectures. I learnt them beyond the syllables years back on my own at a much quicker pase.

You become experienced and skilled when you're passionate about it.  Its how I started from being curious about how software is made to a full stack generalist... knowing more stack than the above requirements.

You want skills not pedigree.


November 29, 2017
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 at 10:47:31 UTC, aberba wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 January 2015 at 11:10:09 UTC, Johanna Burgos wrote:
>> Your Mission
>>
>
>> Your Track Record
>>
>> Degree in Computer Science, or closely-related
>>
>
> It baffles me that recruitment still works using this as a requirement. A CS graduate will never know any of these besides basic intro to C, C++, html, css,  databases,  and basic hardware-software theory... without self learning and practice.
>
> ...

Sure it will, it is a matter of university quality.

During my 5 year degree, we got to learn about C++, Prolog, Caml Light and SML, x86 and MIPS Assembly, Pascal, PL/SQL, Java, Smalltalk.

Those that took compiler design, also had a look into Algol, Concurrent C, Oberon, Modula-3, Eiffel, Lisp.

We had access to DG/UX, Aix, GNU/Linux, Mac System 7 and Windows as OSes.

Additionally we got all the layers of OS development, from drivers to graphics programming, distributed computing using PWM and MPI, web design, architecture, algorithms and data structures, calculus, linear algebra among many other concepts.

Each area required projects to be delivered during each semester and final examination.

Sure many can self learn some of those themes, but it requires a big discipline to keep the rhythm.


November 29, 2017
On Wednesday, 29 November 2017 at 10:47:31 UTC, aberba wrote:
> to death learning these stuff in lectures. I learnt them beyond the syllables years back on my own at a much quicker pase.

CS isnt about the languages themselves, that is trivial. Basically covered in the first or second semester.

> You become experienced and skilled when you're passionate about it.

Sure, imperative languages are all mostly the same, and easy to learn once you know the basics (C++ being an exception).  Learning frameworks takes time, but there are too many frameworks for anyone to master, and they are quickly outdated.

So the only knowledgebase that isnt getting outdated are the models from CS.


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