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December 30, 2007
Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
Pre alpha:

http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki

Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.

FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.

Some other things, which are not made available yet.

Hope it is useful.
December 30, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
bobef schrieb:
> Pre alpha:
> 
> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> 
> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> 
> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> 
> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> 
> Hope it is useful.

No screenshots bobef ?
Bjoern
December 30, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
What screen shots? HTML + CSS - your imagination is the limit. If you don't believe me take a look here - http://www.webcreme.com/ . Now imagine this in a window with title bar and minimize/maxime/close buttons, working faster even than opera (and than native Win32 controls too), programmable in D and fully customizable and extensible :D This is your screenshot :D

BLS Wrote:

> bobef schrieb:
> > Pre alpha:
> > 
> > http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> > 
> > Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> > 
> > FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> > 
> > Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> > 
> > Hope it is useful.
> 
> No screenshots bobef ?
> Bjoern
December 30, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
HTMLayout SDK demos - http://www.terrainformatica.com/htmlayout/HTMLayoutDemo.zip . Shows most of the functionality of HTMLayout (lacks eye candy).

BLS Wrote:

> bobef schrieb:
> > Pre alpha:
> > 
> > http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> > 
> > Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> > 
> > FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> > 
> > Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> > 
> > Hope it is useful.
> 
> No screenshots bobef ?
> Bjoern
December 30, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
bobef schrieb:
> HTMLayout SDK demos - http://www.terrainformatica.com/htmlayout/HTMLayoutDemo.zip . Shows most of the functionality of HTMLayout (lacks eye candy).
> 
> BLS Wrote:
> 
>> bobef schrieb:
>>> Pre alpha:
>>>
>>> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
>>>
>>> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
>>>
>>> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
>>>
>>> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
>>>
>>> Hope it is useful.
>> No screenshots bobef ?
>> Bjoern
> 
Dear bobef,
So,  what do I see at webcreme?  .. web stuff... not related at all to 
Desktop frontend- Applications.
(Doest it fit into my WIN DESKTOP vertical market app. ? Can I use the 
layout engine,etc ... sure, "somehow" stupid questions, but please keep 
in mind that not all of us are aware/comfortable regarding Harmony) :)

I guess that (most probabely) I miss something here, however
a smart expressive little piece of code, showing visual effects,  will 
help.

Bjoern
December 31, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:50:27 -0500
bobef <bobef@abv_nospam.bg> wrote:

> Pre alpha:
> 
> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> 
> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> 
> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> 
> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> 
> Hope it is useful.


Great work!

I hope to use FlowerScript to replace PHP as server side scripting engine in the future. (More work to do, e.g. connect to DataBase)


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December 31, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
bobef wrote:
> Pre alpha:
> 
> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> 
> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> 
> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> 
> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> 
> Hope it is useful.

I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too:

Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the 
Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was 
about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point 
was to /get it to the customer/.

So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen 
shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please.

Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!
December 31, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
Georg Wrede schrieb:
> bobef wrote:
>> Pre alpha:
>>
>> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
>>
>> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent 
>> for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
>>
>> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
>>
>> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
>>
>> Hope it is useful.
> 
> I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too:
> 
> Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the 
> Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was 
> about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point 
> was to /get it to the customer/.
> 
> So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen 
> shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please.
> 
> Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!

Well bobef is without doubt an excellent, outstanding developer (AKIDE), 
 and the GUI stuff  is, from what I can say now, interesting.
Anyway...
info++ ? YEP!
December 31, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
Sorry guys. I will provide more info, examples, etc with time. I just don't have the time to do it all right now. I am sharing the code because I think it is usable. Just to make one thing clear. HTMLayout !is Harmonia . It is not a GUI library. It is an HTML renderer. It renders HTML and CSS (and some SVG too). So it allows you to do everything you see on the web. Visual effects and everything (this is why I showed webcreme). If you need to do some forms, controls, etc you can do it too... It is very well designed so it is also usable as GUI library. And it is very easy to do complex layouts with HTML by hand, unlike any standard GUI library, and then it is very easy to control everything from D... Sorry I don't have the time right now for examples and stuff, but if you are interested take a deeper look at HTMLayout's website. It provides all the info you need. Plus, if you are going to use the wrapper, you need to familiarize with HTMLayout first, so it is a very good starting point. If you have questions and need any specific info - ask in the flowerd forum. I will try to help.


BLS Wrote:

> Georg Wrede schrieb:
> > bobef wrote:
> >> Pre alpha:
> >>
> >> http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> >>
> >> Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent 
> >> for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> >>
> >> FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> >>
> >> Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> >>
> >> Hope it is useful.
> > 
> > I read BLS and yidabu, and here's my own thoughts, too:
> > 
> > Look, making a superior product (as in VHS vs Beta, Nikon vs Canon, the 
> > Anglo-Saxon system vs SI (or even mks), algebraic vs RPN), it never was 
> > about technical superiority or even better usability. The whole point 
> > was to /get it to the customer/.
> > 
> > So? Screenshots, trivial example sources /with/ corresponding screen 
> > shots; a FAQ, and a few lines describing why one would switch over. Please.
> > 
> > Pre-Alpha? The more reason to fix the above already!
> 
> Well bobef is without doubt an excellent, outstanding developer (AKIDE), 
>   and the GUI stuff  is, from what I can say now, interesting.
> Anyway...
> info++ ? YEP!
December 31, 2007
Re: Announcing flowerd (it is several things)
yidabu Wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:50:27 -0500
> bobef <bobef@abv_nospam.bg> wrote:
> 
> > Pre alpha:
> > 
> > http://dsource.org/projects/flowerd/wiki
> > 
> > Provides wrapper for HTMLayout (embeddable HTML component). Excellent for making GUIs which otherwise is pain with D.
> > 
> > FlowerScript - my own scripting enginge.
> > 
> > Some other things, which are not made available yet.
> > 
> > Hope it is useful.
> 
> 
> Great work!
> 
> I hope to use FlowerScript to replace PHP as server side scripting engine in the future. £¨More work to do, e.g. connect to DataBase)
> 

I had MySQL connection (trough DDBI) implemented in the previous revision of FlowerScript and will implement it again (actually it can be almost copy-pasted). Thanks to the MiniD's binding library is very easy to extend the script. It is easy even without that, but this way you can use most D classes without changes...


> 
> -- 
> yidabu <yidabu.nospam@gmail.com>
> D Programming Language China:
> http://www.d-programming-language-china.org/
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