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March 17, 2008
Re: Baiting
anon wrote:
> Walter Bright Wrote:
> 
> 
>>BCS wrote:
>>
>>>Walter Bright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>This offer also extends to fake postings. If you're being impersonated 
>>>>by someone else, send me newsgroup/message numbers, and I'll yank them.
>>>
>>>I think I'd rather just have the by-line edited to "Forger" or something 
>>>like that, particularly if the real poster could be identified.
>>
>>
>>I refuse to edit posts on general principles, it's a fundamental issue 
>>of trust. Either they stay or they go, in totality.
> 
> 
> u could add a header like x-forged. the prb is u cant automate detection of forgery bc almost every1 has dynamic ip.

I known a guy who could do it based on content.
March 18, 2008
Re: Baiting
"BCS" <BCS@pathlink.com> wrote in message 
news:frmlt3$1m0k$6@digitalmars.com...

>>
>> u could add a header like x-forged. the prb is u cant automate detection 
>> of forgery bc almost every1 has dynamic ip.
>
> I known a guy who could do it based on content.

A very simple quasi-password scheme (I think suggested by downs and how some 
anonymous message boards work), is to have all users place a "password" of 
sorts after their username/email address.  So I might have something like 
"Jarrett Billingsley #foobarbaz".  When the server gets the post, it 
converts the #password into a !hash, so it'd be like "Jarrett Billingsley 
!03acfeeb".  The chances of two passwords hashing to the same value are 
obviously nonzero but slim nonetheless.  It's still definitely defeatable by 
something like a rainbow table but it'd keep all but the most determined 
forgery artists at bay.

Whether or not something like this is possible in an NNTP server is beyond 
me.  :S
March 18, 2008
Re: Baiting
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:11:21 -0400, Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> A very simple quasi-password scheme ...

Thanks for reminding me. I should be PGP-signing my newsgroup posts.

- -- 
Derek
(skype: derek.j.parnell)
Melbourne, Australia
18/03/2008 2:55:16 PM
March 18, 2008
Re: Baiting
Derek Parnell Wrote:

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> On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:11:21 -0400, Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> > A very simple quasi-password scheme ...
> 
> Thanks for reminding me. I should be PGP-signing my newsgroup posts.
> 
> - -- 
> Derek
> (skype: derek.j.parnell)
> Melbourne, Australia
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Ummm  err   jeez thats a hard one . Use that ........but dont let the insiders at the server. Thats where some of them have come from I reckon.

I just offer up that a free board is a very necessary thing in this age of electronic censorship and Government policing activity. 
If you don´t stand behind free speech you will lose it Some people swear some don´t.
some drink some don´t some shoot some dont , same with smoking , poison sprays , genetic modification and so on 

Whatever your pleasure you will be in the minority. EG  if you play Tennis and people want to ban it you will find the majority will not be participants so it does not bother them if a few paranoids don´t get to play tennis. - Not well put but you get my drift?
March 18, 2008
Re: Baiting
"TyTower" <tytower@msn.com.au> wrote in message 
news:frnslm$2gc0$1@digitalmars.com...
>
> Ummm  err   jeez thats a hard one . Use that ........but dont let the 
> insiders at the server. Thats where some of them have come from I reckon.
>
> I just offer up that a free board is a very necessary thing in this age of 
> electronic censorship and Government policing activity.
> If you don´t stand behind free speech you will lose it Some people swear 
> some don´t.
> some drink some don´t some shoot some dont , same with smoking , poison 
> sprays , genetic modification and so on
>
> Whatever your pleasure you will be in the minority. EG  if you play Tennis 
> and people want to ban it you will find the majority will not be 
> participants so it does not bother them if a few paranoids don´t get to 
> play tennis. - Not well put but you get my drift?

Free speech is certainly important, but being nasty, immature, and bigoted 
has never been in vogue.  I think you're confusing the two.
March 19, 2008
Re: Baiting
Jarrett Billingsley Wrote:


> Free speech is certainly important, but being nasty, immature, and bigoted 
> has never been in vogue.  I think you're confusing the two. 
> 
> 
You should look to yourself chum . You just can't help yourself    .Drongo
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