Reply to Jarrett,

> "Georg Wrede" <georg@nospam.org> wrote in message
> news:47E99496.1010604@nospam.org...
> 
>> Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
>> 
>>> (note: humorous.)
>>> 
>>> Maybe I can see where you're coming from, if you're thinking
>>> something like this:
>>> 
>>> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
>>> 
>> What can I say? :-)
>> 
>> "Treat a Troll like a Troll, and he'll stay that way."
>> 
> I suppose you are then implying:
> 
> "Treat a Troll like a regular person, and he'll become a regular
> person."

Add "or go way... sooner or later... pro'ly later" and that works.

Reply to Jarrett,

> Please don't bring up politics.  Anything but that.
> 

DANG you, I was going to say that! <G> but, ditto.

Reply to Georg,

> Bill Baxter wrote:
> 
>> I agree, though, that ignoring Trolls is more productive than hurling
>> insults at them.
>> 
> Right.
> 
>> The first step to a Troll becoming a non-Troll is to apologize for
>> past trolling behavior.
>> 
> Hmm. This is akin to the 12-year-old mentality, i.e., expecting that
> they suddenly display maturity above that of the average poster here,
> before they can be forgiven.
> 

I don't actually care if a troll apologizes but it does make a good point for looking at a few posts and seeing if they are acting different.

Georg Wrede wrote:
> Bill Baxter wrote:
>> I agree, though, that ignoring Trolls is more productive than hurling
>>  insults at them.
> 
> Right.
> 
>> The first step to a Troll becoming a non-Troll is to apologize for
>> past trolling behavior.
> 
> Hmm. This is akin to the 12-year-old mentality, i.e., expecting that they suddenly display maturity above that of the average poster here, before they can be forgiven.

No, it is really nothing of the sort.
If you care to send me your email address I'd be happy to discuss with you over email why I disagree.

--bb

Georg Wrede schrieb:
> Not that I'm endorsing his writings/attitude, but one has to give Ty credit for not hiding his identity.

Are you really sure about the identity part?

I think even with this measurement, he does not deserve credit.

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> I suppose you are then implying:
> 
> "Treat a Troll like a regular person, and he'll become a regular person."

Heh, I guess that's exactly what I'm saying...

> I find that terribly hard to believe, given my experience over the years.. 

I know. But it can't result in worse than treating a Troll like a Troll. :-)

Jarrett Billingsley wrote:
> "Georg Wrede" <georg@nospam.org> wrote
> 
>>Wanna guess if I think G. Bush grew up watching this kind of cartoons? Personally Conjuring up the "Axis of Evil" would be a logical result of this mind set. ("There's those that are with us, and the rest are Against Us. If you're not our Friend, then you're our Enemy". Good grief. As if nations, states, corporations, or individuals would only be Good or Evil, with nothing in between. Gee, so which is it, is your brother or your mother Evil or Good? Oh, sorry, but this is a yes/no question, with no other alternatives.)
> 
> Please don't bring up politics.  Anything but that. 

My bad. Sorry.

Frank Benoit wrote:

> Georg Wrede schrieb:
>> Not that I'm endorsing his writings/attitude, but one has to give Ty credit for not hiding his identity.
> 
> Are you really sure about the identity part?
> 
> I think even with this measurement, he does not deserve credit.


Look above for a list of the real wankers on this NG

Don't waste your time Georg just ignore them . I can see at least you don't follow like a sheep. A fox on the edge is a far better way. "We few . We happy few. We band of brothers" Henry V

As for Billingsley , another kid starting out with a big mouth and ill-considered values -probably black ? from Pittsburgh. Racism is not an issue until suddenly you experience it with a new neighbour , then values change and the mouth slows down

Poor old Dad couldn't resist #

By Kris Billingsley on Aug 21, 2007

That’s my boy! Yes, I’m the proud Dad of this Jarrett person. Jarrett surpassed my self taught programming skills when he was 13 or 14. I supported my family for many years using languages we don’t want to get into here.

My boy will go far. I’m so proud I could burst my buttons. Please excuse me…


And this tells me he tends to fall in love with men ! so watch your backs.

Your DSource profile says you are a CS student. Which year are you in now? What is the most interesting course you’ve taken so far?

I’m currently a CS student at the University of Pittsburgh.  I’ve just completed my second year, so if all goes well I should have two years left, unless I decide to go to graduate school.

So far, most of the classes I’ve taken in CS have been introductory
classes — programming, some computational theory, logic.  They
reserve most of the fun classes for the upper-level students ;)  If I
had to choose from the ones that I’ve taken, though, it would have to
be my “Computer Organization and Assembly Language” course (CS 0447
at Pitt).  The course was about the basic architecture of computer
processors, getting down into the register file and the ALU and
microprogramming and such, which I found interesting in and of
itself.  The main reason I liked the course so much, though, was the
professor, Dr. Mark Kahrs.  He doesn’t teach the class very often,
but I’m very glad I had him.  He was one of the few professors I’ve
had who seemed genuinely excited about the material he was teaching.
He always had a plan, he came up with challenging assignments (write
an emulator for an old vector graphics device in MIPS assembly!), his
tests actually tested your ability to think and reason rather than
memorize, and he knew what he was talking about.  I really respect
the man and hope I have the opportunity to take another class with
him.

Ty Tower escribió:
> Frank Benoit wrote:
> 
>> Georg Wrede schrieb:
>>> Not that I'm endorsing his writings/attitude, but one has to give
>>> Ty credit for not hiding his identity.
>> Are you really sure about the identity part?
>>
>> I think even with this measurement, he does not deserve credit.
> 
> 
> Look above for a list of the real wankers on this NG
> 
> Don't waste your time Georg just ignore them . I can see at least you
> don't follow like a sheep. A fox on the edge is a far better way.
> "We few . We happy few. We band of brothers" Henry V  
> 
> As for Billingsley , another kid starting out with a big mouth and
> ill-considered values -probably black ? from Pittsburgh. Racism is
> not an issue until suddenly you experience it with a new neighbour ,
> then values change and the mouth slows down
> 
> Poor old Dad couldn't resist #
> 
> By Kris Billingsley on Aug 21, 2007
> 
> That’s my boy! Yes, I’m the proud Dad of this Jarrett person. Jarrett
> surpassed my self taught programming skills when he was 13 or 14. I
> supported my family for many years using languages we don’t want to
> get into here.
> 
> My boy will go far. I’m so proud I could burst my buttons. Please
> excuse me…
> 
> 
> And this tells me he tends to fall in love with men ! so watch your
> backs.
> 
> Your DSource profile says you are a CS student. Which year are you in
> now? What is the most interesting course you’ve taken so far?
> 
> I’m currently a CS student at the University of Pittsburgh.  I’ve just
> completed my second year, so if all goes well I should have two years
> left, unless I decide to go to graduate school.
> 
> So far, most of the classes I’ve taken in CS have been introductory
> classes — programming, some computational theory, logic.  They
> reserve most of the fun classes for the upper-level students ;)  If I
> had to choose from the ones that I’ve taken, though, it would have to
> be my “Computer Organization and Assembly Language” course (CS 0447
> at Pitt).  The course was about the basic architecture of computer
> processors, getting down into the register file and the ALU and
> microprogramming and such, which I found interesting in and of
> itself.  The main reason I liked the course so much, though, was the
> professor, Dr. Mark Kahrs.  He doesn’t teach the class very often,
> but I’m very glad I had him.  He was one of the few professors I’ve
> had who seemed genuinely excited about the material he was teaching. He always had a plan, he came up with challenging assignments (write
> an emulator for an old vector graphics device in MIPS assembly!), his
> tests actually tested your ability to think and reason rather than
> memorize, and he knew what he was talking about.  I really respect
> the man and hope I have the opportunity to take another class with
> him.
> 
Idiot.

Nah I'm wrong on the colour but looks a bit arabic . Then he likes getting smashed with the mates so alchohol is OK .Probably having a hard time with a beard and that nose at the moment though with the Iraq war. Perhaps they will deport him?.