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February 11, 2009 API Evolution | ||||
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This is a bit related to the discussion about version(). In the Lambda the Ultimate blog-forum they are discussing about better support in languages for API Evolution: http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2950 In the discussion someone has said that it may be useful a syntax to specify what version of a module/package must be imported. (And now and then I have seen people in Python mailing lists ask for something similar, they have several versions of the same module/package and they want other modules to import only the right version). A first possible raw idea: This looks for a module foo strictly version 1.3: import foo(1.3, 1.4) : bar; This looks for a module foo version 1.3 or 1.4 only: import foo(1.3, 1.4) : bar; This looks for a module foo version 1.3 or successive: import foo(1.3, +) : bar; The compiler is of course supposed to look for modules by itself, as bud does, and it rises a compilation error if an acceptable version isn't available. That idea may also need a way to define the version of the current module, a raw idea: module foo(1.4); A small problem is that versions of such module/package will have the same name, so you can't put them in the same directory... Bye, bearophile | ||||
February 11, 2009 Re: API Evolution | ||||
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Posted in reply to bearophile |
bearophile wrote:
> This is a bit related to the discussion about version().
>
> In the Lambda the Ultimate blog-forum they are discussing about better support in languages for API Evolution:
>
> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2950
>
> In the discussion someone has said that it may be useful a syntax to specify what version of a module/package must be imported. (And now and then I have seen people in Python mailing lists ask for something similar, they have several versions of the same module/package and they want other modules to import only the right version).
>
> [snip]
>
> Bye,
> bearophile
Couldn't you just compile with a specific version? I don't see a reason for the language to support this when D currently doesn't even have the concept of libraries.
If anything, this should be a candidate feature for DSSS. Maybe you could do it like so:
version( build )
{
// Obviously, you'd only use ONE of these...
pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3.*" );
pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3.*", "1.4.*" );
pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3+" );
}
import derelict.gl;
DSSS could then download and install the appropriate version if it isn't already present.
-- Daniel
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February 11, 2009 Re: API Evolution | ||||
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Posted in reply to Daniel Keep | Daniel Keep wrote:
> bearophile wrote:
>> This is a bit related to the discussion about version().
>>
>> In the Lambda the Ultimate blog-forum they are discussing about better support in languages for API Evolution:
>>
>> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2950
>>
>> In the discussion someone has said that it may be useful a syntax to specify what version of a module/package must be imported. (And now and then I have seen people in Python mailing lists ask for something similar, they have several versions of the same module/package and they want other modules to import only the right version).
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> Bye,
>> bearophile
>
> Couldn't you just compile with a specific version? I don't see a reason for the language to support this when D currently doesn't even have the concept of libraries.
>
> If anything, this should be a candidate feature for DSSS. Maybe you could do it like so:
>
> version( build )
> {
> // Obviously, you'd only use ONE of these...
> pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3.*" );
> pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3.*", "1.4.*" );
> pragma( library_version, derelict.gl, "1.3+" );
> }
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> import derelict.gl;
>
> DSSS could then download and install the appropriate version if it isn't already present.
>
> -- Daniel
This kind of thing would be awesome, whether it be by language builtins or by DSSS. It's also the kind of thing I might just get frustrated and write at some point. DSSS needs to act a bit more like portage ;)
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