November 02, 2009
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 18:20, Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn@gmail.com> wrote:


> If you're up to it, something like a 'post-mortem' style article about your experiences would be very interesting!
>

You mean like "How I came to love templates" or "Trying to be fun(ctional)"?


Philippe


November 02, 2009
Philippe Sigaud wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 18:20, Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> If you're up to it, something like a 'post-mortem' style article about your experiences would be very interesting!
>>
> 
> You mean like "How I came to love templates" or "Trying to be
> fun(ctional)"?
> 
> 
> Philippe

Exactly: something in first person.

November 02, 2009
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:14, bearophile <bearophileHUGS@lycos.com> wrote:

> Philippe Sigaud:
>
> Hello, it seems you have re-done with ranges for D2 a good amount of things
> I did for D1:
> http://www.fantascienza.net/leonardo/so/libs_d.zip
>
> Ah yes, I meant to look at your libraries, but forgot to do it. I'll have a
look right now, to see how you solved some problems.


> - bimap/nmap/map: having a single map able to do all that is better. The same for filters.
>

Well, yes and no. It has grown organically, from the simple structs (mapping and filtering with binary functions) to the more complex ones. I have a few other ranges I want to do and then will begin the cutting down and refactoring. I coded a range segmentation as delays on a zip-range tonight (thanks Andrei for the idea!) and it seems to work. That will allow me to factor some things away.

Also, I like having generic and adaptative functions as much as the next guy, but when I tried to put every functionality inside one struct, it became some kind of godzilla of static ifs. So right now, I prefer having some specialised functions to do a more precise work, sometimes even more efficiently, that I can (theoritically) plug one into another.

And, right now, I'm limited by the fact that templates can only have one variadic type, for self-evident reasons. So you cannot have both

* map!(fun1, fun2, fun3...)(r) behavior (mapping one range with a tuple of
functions)  that is, std.algo.map behavior, and,
* map!(fun, R...)(R manyRanges) (mapping one function on many ranges in
parallel).

 because the ... part in the template can exist only once.
map(fun..., R ...)(R ranges) cannot exist. Well it can, but that means
separating the funs from the ranges by filtering on the variadic arguments
at compile time and I'm a bit leery of doing this, for not that much
functionality added.

- setComprehension: better to have a set(range).
>

I'm afraid I disagree. I would expect set(range) to create a Set collection
or to transform a range into a set (I called that asSet!R)
And anyway, I guess I'll just provide an asSet!R wrapper on one hand and
comprehension on the other hand.


> - comprehension: see select() in my dlibs.
>

I will and gladly, because I'd like to know how you've tackled some problems.

Right now, the comprehension range I propose can do all the computations you'll see everywhere on blogs and wikipedia:

// python
S = (2*x for x in count() if x**2 > 3)
// D
auto S = comprehension!("2*a", "a*a>3")(numbers());

But not the rebindings:
// Scala
for (p <- persons; if !p.isMale; c <- p.children) yield (c.name, p.name)

There, c comes from p.children, which is a list created anew for each p. It means that inside the for expression, p can be used to create new ranges.

Obviously, I can nest the standard comprehensions (first generating the p's, then the c's from the p and creating the tuples(p,c) from there). But I gather I can have it done internally, with a combinations of flatMap and such.


Philippe


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