Hello Adam,


> On Internet Explorer, the size looks OK, but the menu text has poor
> contrast. The mouse hover color looks better than the regular color.
> 

Ditto, chrome.

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Hello Walter,

> bearophile wrote:
> 
>> Please looks at your site with Firefox too.
>> 
> I did, it looks the same.
> 

What is the dot pitch of your monitor?

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BCS wrote:
> Hello Walter,
> 
>> bearophile wrote:
>>
>>> Please looks at your site with Firefox too.
>>>
>> I did, it looks the same.
>>
> 
> What is the dot pitch of your monitor?

Suggestion: attach screenshots.

Andrei

Looks great in IE 8, Chrome 5, Firefox 3, and Opera 10! I like it so far. Now all we need now is to find someone to revamp the web interface to this newsgroup on we would be set.

On Friday, July 02, 2010 18:16:27 Adam Ruppe wrote:
> On 7/2/10, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> > What browser are you using? In IE it renders well, and I'm picky about that sort of thing.
> 
> I tried both Konqueror and Firefox and found the body text to look bad, worse in Firefox (probably because I set konqueror to ignore font sizes specified in websites, but the color there didn't make me happy either).
> 
> On Internet Explorer, the size looks OK, but the menu text has poor contrast. The mouse hover color looks better than the regular color.

I'm using Konqueror and it looks okay except for the side bar. It's readable, but that reddish glow effect makes the parts of the sidebar it's on harder to read. If it were gone, then it likely wouldn't be a problem.

Trying firefox, chromium, and opera, they all have the same problem but to varying degrees. The whiter they render the text, the less of a problem it is. But I think that that red glow is problematic

- Jonathan M Davis

Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> Comments welcome.

I really like the feel, but I must join the others saying the menu text
has too low contrast.

I'm mostly using Opera 10.6/Win7 on 1920x1200 on a 15.4" laptop monitor,
and the font size is perfect for me. I noticed it's smaller in Chrome/
Firefox, but not so much it hurts readability for me. Then again, I have
good eyesight.

Also, on that resolution, the comment/translate/reddit box is in no way
troublesome, and in fact feels the right size and position. I agree it
feels somewhat intruding on lower resolutions.

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On 2010-07-02 20:55:33 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> said:

> David Gileadi was kind enough to spend some time redesigning the look of the D web site. A preview of it is up on d-programming-language.org. This isn't about the content, just the look/style/feel.
> 
> Comments welcome.
> 
> Please don't put links to anything other than the front page yet, as the organization may change.

It looks much better than the old one visually, but I have a few first impression comments about some things that could be improved:

1. That Google Translation bar that appears at the top of every page about one second after it has loaded is distracting from the content. Yes I can click the X, or the "turn off" button, but having all the content shift downwards a second after the page has loaded is annoying. And the "turn off" button probably won't work after I reset my cookies... hum, not even close: I see it doesn't work even if I keep my cookies, not sure why. :-/

(Note: this bar probably appears only when the default language for your browser/OS isn't English. Also, translation is overrated for a programming language website, because when you translate a page, most of the code becomes unreadable. It certainly can be useful, but I wouldn't promote it too much because the result is really suboptimal.)

2. Why is the Digital Mars logo so big? I realize it's about the same size as on the DM website, but because of the dark background it looks as if it was the main title of the website, shadowing the "D programming language 2.0" which looks like a subtitle. I think DM needs to be made a little smaller and somehow leave more room for D, and the "D programming language 2.0" below should be made more visible. This is D's website, so D should be the one getting the most attention.

3. As other have said, the contrast is suboptimal for the navigation menu on the left. As I learned myself when making websites, most people's monitors aren't properly calibrated and what looks good one one often looks bad on another. So you must account for this when choosing the colors.

4. I'd like if some unnecessary margins on some elements were reduced or removed. The site looks all squeezed if the window is not wide enough. The effect is particularly bad for code samples which have way too much margin (perhaps some margin/padding should be expressed in percents). Here are three screenshots at the size I generally keep my browser window:

http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-1.png
http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-2.png
http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-3.png

(Note: the last one is quite funny if you can read French, but perhaps also if you can't.)

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On 2010-07-02 21:54:15 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> said:

> BCS wrote:
>> Hello Walter,
>> 
>>> bearophile wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Please looks at your site with Firefox too.
>>>> 
>>> I did, it looks the same.
>>> 
>> 
>> What is the dot pitch of your monitor?
> 
> Suggestion: attach screenshots.

I think a photograph of the monitor is what you'd really need. Different monitors have different sharpness and different ways to render the same color values.


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On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 20:55:33 -0400, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> David Gileadi was kind enough to spend some time redesigning the look of the D web site. A preview of it is up on d-programming-language.org. This isn't about the content, just the look/style/feel.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Please don't put links to anything other than the front page yet, as the organization may change.

Generally, looks good.
1. I concur that medium-light gray on medium-dark gray is too low contrast. However, I find the red bloom in the upper left corner, which also reduces contrast, to be a greater hindrance to readability. Text size seems fine by me.
2. The sub-menus (i.e. articles, language reference, etc.) are gliching with opera 10.53 when zoomed. Part of the screen literally doesn't refresh properly when scrolling and/or switching tabs. This only occurs after you've entered at least one menu after zooming.

Simen kjaeraas, el  3 de julio a las 04:01 me escribiste:
> Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> 
> >Comments welcome.
> 
> I really like the feel, but I must join the others saying the menu text has too low contrast.
> 
> I'm mostly using Opera 10.6/Win7 on 1920x1200 on a 15.4" laptop monitor, and the font size is perfect for me. I noticed it's smaller in Chrome/ Firefox, but not so much it hurts readability for me. Then again, I have good eyesight.
> 
> Also, on that resolution, the comment/translate/reddit box is in no way troublesome, and in fact feels the right size and position. I agree it feels somewhat intruding on lower resolutions.

Nice. Use the same favicon as the Wiki4D and I'm sold: http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/upload/duser/favicon.png

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