July 04, 2010
Charles Hixson wrote:
> Actually, I *did* complain about it before...in the context of downloaded documentation.  The timing sometimes makes doing searches over multiple pages, when you don't remember exactly where something was documented, painful.  Sufficiently so that I hand modify downloaded documentation to remove it, and any other scripts that I notice causing a slowdown.  (Translation is worst, but there are a couple of others that are occasionally obtrusive.)
> 
> OTOH, if you're already downloading the page from the net that should be much less of a problem...you're already slowed down.


I have considered removing the documentation from the download, in the interests of reducing the download size. That would resolve that problem <g>.
July 05, 2010
Walter Bright, el  4 de julio a las 15:03 me escribiste:
> Charles Hixson wrote:
> >Actually, I *did* complain about it before...in the context of downloaded documentation.  The timing sometimes makes doing searches over multiple pages, when you don't remember exactly where something was documented, painful.  Sufficiently so that I hand modify downloaded documentation to remove it, and any other scripts that I notice causing a slowdown.  (Translation is worst, but there are a couple of others that are occasionally obtrusive.)
> >
> >OTOH, if you're already downloading the page from the net that should be much less of a problem...you're already slowed down.
> 
> I have considered removing the documentation from the download, in the interests of reducing the download size. That would resolve that problem <g>.

Apart from the joke, it would be nice to have a different distribution package for each OS/arch (using a natural packager for each is a plus; i.e., tar.gz for unixes :).

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July 05, 2010
On 7/2/10 5:55 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> David Gileadi was kind enough to spend some time redesigning the look of
> the D web site. A preview of it is up on d-programming-language.org.
> This isn't about the content, just the look/style/feel.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Please don't put links to anything other than the front page yet, as the
> organization may change.

Thanks everyone for your feedback.  I sent Walter a new version that addresses some of the issues.  In particular the navigation font uses Vladimir's suggested colors and the wiki/translate stuff is adjusted to hopefully look better.

As Vladimir surmised the font sizes are relative, so they respect your system and browser font sizes.  This is supposed to be a "best practice" kind of thing but if a majority of folks have trouble then perhaps I can switch to fixed font sizes.

Thanks again for all the suggestions and the screenshots--they help a lot.

-Dave
July 05, 2010
On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
> On 7/2/10 5:55 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
>> David Gileadi was kind enough to spend some time redesigning the look of
>> the D web site. A preview of it is up on d-programming-language.org.
>> This isn't about the content, just the look/style/feel.
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>> Please don't put links to anything other than the front page yet, as the
>> organization may change.
>
> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that
> addresses some of the issues.

Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.

Andrei
July 05, 2010
David Gileadi wrote:
> As Vladimir surmised the font sizes are relative, so they respect your system and browser font sizes.  This is supposed to be a "best practice" kind of thing but if a majority of folks have trouble then perhaps I can switch to fixed font sizes.
> 
	No, font sizes should be relative. But they should be set so that
the main body of text is at 100%, no more no less.

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July 05, 2010
On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that
>> addresses some of the issues.
>
> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>
> Andrei

I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you.  I went back and looked at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important attachment.  I resent.

-Dave
July 05, 2010
On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:03:49 +0300, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:

> Charles Hixson wrote:
>> Actually, I *did* complain about it before...in the context of downloaded documentation.  The timing sometimes makes doing searches over multiple pages, when you don't remember exactly where something was documented, painful.  Sufficiently so that I hand modify downloaded documentation to remove it, and any other scripts that I notice causing a slowdown.  (Translation is worst, but there are a couple of others that are occasionally obtrusive.)
>>  OTOH, if you're already downloading the page from the net that should be much less of a problem...you're already slowed down.
>
>
> I have considered removing the documentation from the download, in the interests of reducing the download size. That would resolve that problem <g>.

I have written an utility to convert D documentation to compiled HTML help (.chm), which supports native navigation, search and an index:

http://thecybershadow.net/d/docs/

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July 05, 2010
On 07/05/2010 02:33 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
> On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that
>>> addresses some of the issues.
>>
>> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>>
>> Andrei
>
> I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you. I went back and looked
> at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important
> attachment. I resent.

Uploaded.

Andrei
July 05, 2010
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 07/05/2010 02:33 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
>> On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that addresses some of the issues.
>>>
>>> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>
>> I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you. I went back and looked at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important attachment. I resent.
> 
> Uploaded.
> 
	The google translate bar is still there, still appearing after some
time and causing the page to jump down, still wasting valuable
screen real estate and still refusing to stay turned off...

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July 05, 2010
Am 05.07.2010 22:43, schrieb Vladimir Panteleev:
> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:03:49 +0300, Walter Bright
> <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:
>
>> Charles Hixson wrote:
>>> Actually, I *did* complain about it before...in the context of
>>> downloaded documentation. The timing sometimes makes doing searches
>>> over multiple pages, when you don't remember exactly where something
>>> was documented, painful. Sufficiently so that I hand modify
>>> downloaded documentation to remove it, and any other scripts that I
>>> notice causing a slowdown. (Translation is worst, but there are a
>>> couple of others that are occasionally obtrusive.)
>>> OTOH, if you're already downloading the page from the net that should
>>> be much less of a problem...you're already slowed down.
>>
>>
>> I have considered removing the documentation from the download, in the
>> interests of reducing the download size. That would resolve that
>> problem <g>.
>
> I have written an utility to convert D documentation to compiled HTML
> help (.chm), which supports native navigation, search and an index:
>
> http://thecybershadow.net/d/docs/
>
Hey, that's cool!

I love it :D