July 05, 2010
On 07/05/2010 04:24 PM, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>> On 07/05/2010 02:33 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>> On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>>>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that
>>>>> addresses some of the issues.
>>>>
>>>> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>>>>
>>>> Andrei
>>>
>>> I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you. I went back and looked
>>> at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important
>>> attachment. I resent.
>>
>> Uploaded.
>>
> 	The google translate bar is still there, still appearing after some
> time and causing the page to jump down, still wasting valuable
> screen real estate and still refusing to stay turned off...

It appears on the left-hand side for me.

BTW, I like the readable design of this page: http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/. It's clean and I'm a fan of justified alignment. Maybe we should adopt elements from that design.

One thing I find unappealing about the current design is the large spacing left and right of the text inset. The space on the right-hand side is just... odd. The top spacing is also unsightly.


Andrei

July 05, 2010
"Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote in message news:i0tn2i$m7f$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 07/05/2010 04:24 PM, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote:
>> Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2010 02:33 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>>> On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>>>> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that addresses some of the issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrei
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you. I went back and looked at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important attachment. I resent.
>>>
>>> Uploaded.
>>>
>> The google translate bar is still there, still appearing after some time and causing the page to jump down, still wasting valuable screen real estate and still refusing to stay turned off...
>
> It appears on the left-hand side for me.
>
> BTW, I like the readable design of this page: http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/. It's clean and I'm a fan of justified alignment. Maybe we should adopt elements from that design.
>

The simplicity is nice. Although, the text is absolutely gigantic, and sizing it down makes it incrediby blurry (first time I've ever seen blurry text in FF2) and the letters are scrunched too close together to read easily. Allso there's a little bit *too* much contrast.

I do, however, absolutely love the content of the page :) Elastic Tabstops FTW!!


July 05, 2010
Vladimir Panteleev Wrote:

> On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 01:03:49 +0300, Walter Bright <newshound2@digitalmars.com> wrote:
> 
> > Charles Hixson wrote:
> >> Actually, I *did* complain about it before...in the context of
> >> downloaded documentation.  The timing sometimes makes doing searches
> >> over multiple pages, when you don't remember exactly where something
> >> was documented, painful.  Sufficiently so that I hand modify downloaded
> >> documentation to remove it, and any other scripts that I notice causing
> >> a slowdown.  (Translation is worst, but there are a couple of others
> >> that are occasionally obtrusive.)
> >>  OTOH, if you're already downloading the page from the net that should
> >> be much less of a problem...you're already slowed down.
> >
> >
> > I have considered removing the documentation from the download, in the interests of reducing the download size. That would resolve that problem <g>.
> 
> I have written an utility to convert D documentation to compiled HTML help (.chm), which supports native navigation, search and an index:
> 
> http://thecybershadow.net/d/docs/
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>   Vladimir                            mailto:vladimir@thecybershadow.net

I forgot to say Thanks, since I've been using it for a while. That MS HTML workshop can be a little buggy sometime, sometimes it works, other times not. But that's MS's fault.
July 05, 2010
On 2010-07-05 18:41:25 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> said:

> It appears on the left-hand side for me.

He wasn't talking about that one.

If you set the preferred language of your browser (or in some cases your OS) to something else than English, you'll see a big light-blue Google Translate bar at the top proposing you to translate the page in whatever preferred language you have. If your browser is set to English as the preferred language (same as the page), it doesn't appear.

The three screenshots I posted earlier shows what the bar is like:

http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-1.png
http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-2.png
http://michelf.com/img/shots/d-website-3.png

That was the earlier design, but the bar is still there with this improved design and shift everything downwards when it appears, approximatively one second after the page has loaded.

-- 
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin@michelf.com
http://michelf.com/

July 06, 2010
"Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote in message news:i0tg8i$b1b$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 07/05/2010 02:33 PM, David Gileadi wrote:
>> On 7/5/10 8:51 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2010 09:08 AM, David Gileadi wrote:
>>>> Thanks everyone for your feedback. I sent Walter a new version that addresses some of the issues.
>>>
>>> Feel free to send one to me too, I'll upload it.
>>>
>>> Andrei
>>
>> I'm glad you mentioned this because I CCed you. I went back and looked at it, and sure enough my e-mail failed to include the all-important attachment. I resent.
>
> Uploaded.
>

The search box still has invisible-text-syndrome.


July 06, 2010
KennyTM~ wrote:
> You could use <pre class="notranslate"> to suppress translation. It's documented in http://translate.google.com/support/.

It's actually span, not pre. But thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.
July 06, 2010
Walter Bright wrote:
> KennyTM~ wrote:
>> You could use <pre class="notranslate"> to suppress translation. It's documented in http://translate.google.com/support/.
> 
> It's actually span, not pre. But thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.

Ok, tried it. It preserves the line breaks, but it adds an extra space at the start and a blank line at the end. Not perfect, but seems to work well enough.

Page to try it on:

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/2.0/ctod.html
July 06, 2010
On Jul 6, 10 10:04, Walter Bright wrote:
> KennyTM~ wrote:
>> You could use <pre class="notranslate"> to suppress translation. It's
>> documented in http://translate.google.com/support/.
>
> It's actually span, not pre. But thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try.

Actually any elements with the class name 'notranslate' is OK, e.g.

   <pre class="notranslate ccode">int main () {
      ...
      return 0;
   }
   </pre>
July 06, 2010
On 7/5/10 5:10 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> The search box still has invisible-text-syndrome.

Sorry, fix will be in the next update.
July 06, 2010
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 08:09:47 -0400, David Gileadi <gileadis@nspmgmail.com> wrote:

> On 7/5/10 5:10 PM, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
>> The search box still has invisible-text-syndrome.
>
> Sorry, fix will be in the next update.

Also, the page still doesn't render properly when zoomed in Opera.