Andrei Alexandrescu Wrote:

> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content. Please give the design one more round of comments.

Doesn't scale well when I increase font size.

On 2010-09-02 15:10:52 -0400, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> said:

> "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote in message
> news:i5nkrn$1tf2$1@digitalmars.com...
>> "Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote in message
>> news:i5ni8j$1nk4$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content.
>>> Please give the design one more round of comments.
>>> 
>> 
>> I think I would try just getting rid of the red flare in the background,
>> and maybe just make a slightly reddish solid background color. It was a
>> neat idea, but I think getting it to really look right would be a bit
>> difficult.
>> 
>> Everything else seems to look fine though from a quick look-though. Main
>> font size is perfect.
> 
> Another thing: At the bottom of the left-nav column it says "Translate this
> page:", but then there's nothing there. Kinda weird.

That's because you have Javascript disabled.

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On 2010-09-02 03:03:33 -0400, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> said:

> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content. Please give the design one more round of comments.

Andrei, if your system language (or browser language) is set to something other than English, there's a big blue bar at the top that appears about 1 second after loading the page offering your a translation. It's quite annoying... it really needs to go. There's already a translate widget in the left menu so so the top bar is certainly not needed.

And the only way to get rid of it is by disabling JavaScript, by using Google Chrome (it seems the bar doesn't appear in Chrome), or by changing the preferred language to English in the system settings or the browser settings.

-- 
Michel Fortin
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http://michelf.com/

"Michel Fortin" <michel.fortin@michelf.com> wrote in message news:i5pa3l$3189$1@digitalmars.com...
> On 2010-09-02 15:10:52 -0400, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> said:
>
>> "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote in message news:i5nkrn$1tf2$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> "Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote in message news:i5ni8j$1nk4$1@digitalmars.com...
>>>> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content. Please give the design one more round of comments.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I would try just getting rid of the red flare in the background, and maybe just make a slightly reddish solid background color. It was a neat idea, but I think getting it to really look right would be a bit difficult.
>>>
>>> Everything else seems to look fine though from a quick look-though. Main font size is perfect.
>>
>> Another thing: At the bottom of the left-nav column it says "Translate
>> this
>> page:", but then there's nothing there. Kinda weird.
>
> That's because you have Javascript disabled.
>

Ok, that at least explains it. However:

If that translate tool only works with JS on, then the "Translate this page:" text should only be inserted into the page via JS, not baked into the raw HTML.

On 2010-09-02 19:24:41 -0400, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> said:

> "Michel Fortin" <michel.fortin@michelf.com> wrote in message
> news:i5pa3l$3189$1@digitalmars.com...
>> On 2010-09-02 15:10:52 -0400, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> said:
>> 
>>> Another thing: At the bottom of the left-nav column it says "Translate
>>> this
>>> page:", but then there's nothing there. Kinda weird.
>> 
>> That's because you have Javascript disabled.
> 
> Ok, that at least explains it. However:
> 
> If that translate tool only works with JS on, then the "Translate this
> page:" text should only be inserted into the page via JS, not baked into the
> raw HTML.

Very true. A small <script>document.write("<p>Translate this page:</p>")</script> should do the trick.

-- 
Michel Fortin
michel.fortin@michelf.com
http://michelf.com/

On 02/09/2010 23:56, Michel Fortin wrote:
> On 2010-09-02 15:10:52 -0400, "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> said:
>
>> "Nick Sabalausky" <a@a.a> wrote in message
>> news:i5nkrn$1tf2$1@digitalmars.com...
>>> "Andrei Alexandrescu" <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote in message
>>> news:i5ni8j$1nk4$1@digitalmars.com...
>>>> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content.
>>>> Please give the design one more round of comments.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think I would try just getting rid of the red flare in the background,
>>> and maybe just make a slightly reddish solid background color. It was a
>>> neat idea, but I think getting it to really look right would be a bit
>>> difficult.
>>>
>>> Everything else seems to look fine though from a quick look-though. Main
>>> font size is perfect.
>>
>> Another thing: At the bottom of the left-nav column it says "Translate
>> this
>> page:", but then there's nothing there. Kinda weird.
>
> That's because you have Javascript disabled.

It isn't.  I have it enabled, and I'm getting the same.  And the page is throwing errors.  As reported by FF 3.6.8:

Warning: Expected declaration but found '*'.  Skipped to next declaration.
Source File: http://translate.googleapis.com/translate_static/css/translateelement.css
Line: 2

Warning: Error in parsing value for 'display'.  Declaration dropped.
Source File: http://translate.googleapis.com/translate_static/css/translateelement.css
Line: 2

Security Error: Content at http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/ may not load data from http://d-programming-language.org/wc.html.

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "b.value is null" {file: "chrome://google-toolbar-lib/content/toolbar.js" line: 2515}]' when calling method: [nsIFactory::createInstance]"  nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://google-toolbar/content/gtb.js :: anonymous :: line 81"  data: yes]

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "'[JavaScript Error: "b.value is null" {file: "chrome://google-toolbar-lib/content/toolbar.js" line: 2515}]' when calling method: [nsIFactory::createInstance]"  nsresult: "0x80570021 (NS_ERROR_XPC_JAVASCRIPT_ERROR_WITH_DETAILS)"  location: "JS frame :: http://translate.googleapis.com/translate_static/js/element/main.js :: Vi :: line 184"  data: yes]


Stewart.

On 02/09/2010 08:03, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> Time to zero in on the overall design and start working on the content.
> Please give the design one more round of comments.

Nice design on the whole.  A few issues:

1. Too much space above and below code and BNF blocks.

2. In a few places, the bullet points look a little too spaced out.

3. No consistency in whether indentation in BNF is with a tab character, four spaces or eight spaces.

4. Tab characters in pre blocks ought to be avoided, as they aren't guaranteed to display the same for everybody, and it also encourages bad practice if you use half-tabs like that.

5. It would be nice if you ran it through a validator.

http://validator.w3.org/

or if you want to check the whole site

http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/

Stewart.

I think AA just laid emphasis on the proprietor of d language



2010/9/3 Kevin Watters <kevin.watters@gmail.com>

> I definitely agree--the Digital Mars logo shouldn't be so prominent. Also that clicking it takes you to digitalmars.com is weird--a user will definitely expect to be taken back to / instead.
>
> As for thoughts on a logo itself, just something simple with a unique font like the one at http://python.org/ would be fine.
>
>
> klickverbot wrote:
>
>> On http://d-programming-language.org/memory-safe-d.html, the menu sidebar (which is a bit on the long side for the language reference in my mind) extends below the footer, which looks awkward.
>>
>> Also, I personally think that the logo header in its current state is
>> plain ugly – maybe making the font larger and putting the DigitalMars logo
>> to the right side of it would be an idea?
>>
>

remove google translate, it sucks

On 9/2/10 21:58 CDT, Boris Wang wrote:
> I think AA just laid emphasis on the proprietor of d language

I didn't participate to the creation of the content or layout.

Andrei