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October 13, 2010
Re: What do people here use as an IDE?
Jimmy Cao:

> I agree with you very much here.  GUI libraries and IDE support are very low
> priority items for D.

Yet, here we have discussed few times features that help the creation of GUI toolkit (see as example the changes over C++ language done by QT).

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Paulo Pinto:

>if you want to invent some kind of high level assembler, the result will always resemble somehow to C.<

Where low-level performance is important, and at the same time you need quite safe code, a language like ATS is an option, and it doesn't look a lot like C:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATS_%28programming_language%29

The ATS syntax looks very bad compared to C, but it's not bad if you keep into account how much you may use it to proof code. It's first of all a theorem proving language, that's often more efficient than C. It's for niche projects.

Bye,
bearophile
October 14, 2010
Re: What do people here use as an IDE?
Thanks for the hint.

Are you also aware of Habit?
http://www.galois.com/blog/2010/05/12/tech-talk-developing-good-habits-for-bare-metal-programming/

Am 13.10.2010 13:22, schrieb bearophile:
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> Paulo Pinto:
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>> if you want to invent some kind of high level assembler, the result will always resemble somehow to C.<
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> Where low-level performance is important, and at the same time you need quite safe code, a language like ATS is an option, and it doesn't look a lot like C:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATS_%28programming_language%29
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> The ATS syntax looks very bad compared to C, but it's not bad if you keep into account how much you may use it to proof code. It's first of all a theorem proving language, that's often more efficient than C. It's for niche projects.
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> Bye,
> bearophile
October 14, 2010
Re: What do people here use as an IDE?
Paulo Pinto:

> Are you also aware of Habit?
> http://www.galois.com/blog/2010/05/12/tech-talk-developing-good-habits-for-bare-metal-programming/

I saw the video about Habit, but I was not so impressed, it's a bit simplified Haskell variant fitter for low-level code. I haven't seen many new ideas inside it (while ATS is a very different thing).

Bye,
bearophile
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