August 04, 2011
"Andrej Mitrovic" <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.2102.1312471399.14074.digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com...
> On 8/4/11, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>> There is nothing you've mentioned that can't be (better) fixed without cramming everything into a browser.
>
> Where would you cram it then? Put MSN inside the game itself?

See below:

> It was cool being able to casually browse to other tabs, then going back to qlive and finding a game.
>

It's called Alt-Tab and Taskbar/Dock. If those aren't up to the task, they can be improved. If it's the game that doesn't play well with those, then the game can be improved. If it can be done in a browser then it can obviously be done outside a broswer.

> UT for example had an integrated IRC client, but people preferred using mIRC and having a ut://123.123.123.123 protocol they can just click on to join a game.

Don't need the game to be run *in* a browser for that to work. First of all, browsers have *always*  had the ability to lauch external apps upon special url protocol names. Or at least for as long as I can remember anyway. Secondly, there is no reason why dispatching on url-protocol can't be moved to the OS-level (or at least a standard non-browser library), thus bypassing the browser entirely.

> Don't forget having to minimize all the time
> to chat to someone on MSN while playing a game.

So the games can support playing in windowed mode. Problem solved. In fact, many of them already do.

OT: Who the hell uses MSN?

> So there are some
> benefits to having a browser based interface for a game, imo.

Nope.


August 04, 2011
I think we're misunderstanding each other.

I'm not saying move the game to the browser, just the part of the game where you can browse the servers for that game. That's the part of QLive that I liked, I don't care if the game actually runs in the browser or not. I don't know what this NaCI business is about (btw, NaCI? wonderful choice of a name, lol)

> OT: Who the hell uses MSN?

Millions of people? You don't need msn messenger to use the msn network. And who the hell uses internet explorer? :D
August 04, 2011
"Andrej Mitrovic" <andrej.mitrovich@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.2111.1312489332.14074.digitalmars-d-learn@puremagic.com...
>I think we're misunderstanding each other.
>
> I'm not saying move the game to the browser, just the part of the game where you can browse the servers for that game. That's the part of QLive that I liked, I don't care if the game actually runs in the browser or not. I don't know what this NaCI business is about (btw, NaCI? wonderful choice of a name, lol)
>

I see. I always preferred doing it in-game, but I don't really like multiplayer games anyway.

>> OT: Who the hell uses MSN?
>
> Millions of people? You don't need msn messenger to use the msn network. And who the hell uses internet explorer? :D

I think there's some sort of missing link here. MS made MSN, nobody ever used it, and it died a quiet lonely pathetic death in the face of AOL about ten or so years ago. (Then AOL floundered.)


August 04, 2011
I thought MSN had a pretty large network of users. IIRC arstechnica recently had an article comparing the userbase of msn and skype.
August 04, 2011
MSN has done very well outside the United States.
August 05, 2011
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 21:56:16 +0200, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
> OT: Who the hell uses MSN?

Almost everyone below 60 in Sweden, at least a few years ago.
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