January 15, 2012
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 03:27, Andrei Alexandrescu <SeeWebsiteForEmail@erdani.org> wrote:
> On 1/14/12 6:54 PM, Georg Wrede wrote:

>> Why don't we just let the guy write his thing in peace, before demanding a complete book with stylistically professional grammar and style?
>>
>> I mean, at this rate we are beating the horse to death before we've even put it in front of the carriage. If I were Philippe, by this time I'd be stressed out, and the project would start to whither.
>>
>> How about folks just helping him write it, like he asked?
>>
>> There's plenty of time to turn it to the Ten Commandments later, but it needs to exist before that.
>
>
> He asked for feedback. People sent feedback.

No problemo, Georg. I'm not stressed at all by the grammar / style remarks :)

I know that my not being a native English speaker will have me write awkward sentences. I'm glad people are sending me corrections: like Andrei said, I asked for feedback. In fact, I'm thrilled to receive remarks, it means people are interested.
January 15, 2012
On 2012-01-15 14:33, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:26, Jacob Carlborg<doob@me.com>  wrote:
>> I see that you have referenced my Orange library, cool.
>
> As for Orange, is it OK with you if I show a small part of it? Is it
> OK for me to link to the github project?
> Mainly, I wanted to show some tricks you used in util/Reflection.d and
> util/Traits.d. I should rummage in your code again.

Sure, go ahead and use whatever you want :)

> Btw, I think that by using the technics shown in Nick's last year
> article (generating switch/cases from CT information), it would be
> possible to make some parameters of Reflection.d be runtime parameters
> instead of compile-time.

Do you have a link?

> That is, from hasField!(T, "field") to hasField!T("field"). I do not
> know if for serializing it's interesting or not.

It might be, depends on how the implementation look like.

>> Looking at the
>> example for emitting events. I'm not completely sure how it works but it
>> looks like that Fields mixin can be replace with the code you have
>> referenced from my Orange library and opDispatch. Then you could write the
>> Point and Size structs just as regular structs without the mixin.
>
> This mixin comes from Andrej Mitrovic. You should see with him the
> difference with Orange, I admit not knowing much about this.
>
> Philippe

Ok, I see.

-- 
/Jacob Carlborg
January 15, 2012
> Btw, it's cool you could generate the pdf. Did you have minted and pygments already installed?
>

No. But I downloaded minted.sty and apt-get pygmentize when pdflatex failed.


> Don't hesitate to tell me where it's unclear. If you have any example in mind or some difficulty that constantly trip you and that does not appear in the text, send me a mail, put an issue on github or send me a pull request.

Thanks. I have just started reading your tutorial. And I am a slow learner.

Regards
January 15, 2012
On 01/15/2012 05:34 AM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:16, Jacob Carlborg<doob@me.com>  wrote:
>>> Thank you all for the encouragements!
>>
>>
>> Templates is just one part of the language. There are many other parts to
>> write about :)
>
> *snort*
>
> I do think a big range tutorial is overdue. Andrei's article is good,
> but we need something a bit more detailed / for newbies

I am hoping that this is good enough for now:

  http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/ranges.html

> and shown in
> the website. Maybe even a .ddoc file with phobos.
>
> I wonder if we could provide some Ddoc files like this...

Ali
January 15, 2012
On 1/15/2012 5:50 AM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
> In fact, I'm thrilled to receive
> remarks, it means people are interested.

Nothing worse than silence!

Also, I would be doing you a disservice if you ask for feedback, and I don't because I thought it might hurt your feelings.
January 15, 2012
On Sunday, 15 January 2012 at 00:54:37 UTC, Georg Wrede wrote:
> Why don't we just let the guy write his thing in peace, before demanding a complete book with stylistically professional grammar and style?
>
> I mean, at this rate we are beating the horse to death before we've even put it in front of the carriage. If I were Philippe, by this time I'd be stressed out, and the project would start to whither.
>
> How about folks just helping him write it, like he asked?
>
> There's plenty of time to turn it to the Ten Commandments later, but it needs to exist before that.

Getting feedback on writing style early is a great plus to the author. That way he can incorporate it in future additions and practice it, practice catching it.

As for the discussion at hand, I prefer to remove 'you' most of the time. It started with just because I was told to in class, but continues because I've seen what it does to my writing, and I prefer it. But I'm still not perfect with it.

Also, yay articles/books on D!
January 15, 2012
On 1/15/2012 5:34 AM, Philippe Sigaud wrote:
> I do think a big range tutorial is overdue. Andrei's article is good,
> but we need something a bit more detailed / for newbies and shown in
> the website. Maybe even a .ddoc file with phobos.

Yeah, we badly need a "The Range Manifesto".
January 15, 2012
On 1/15/2012 8:00 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> I am hoping that this is good enough for now:
>
> http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/ranges.html

Very nice, I'll read it more carefully later.
January 15, 2012
On 1/15/2012 8:00 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
> I am hoping that this is good enough for now:
>
> http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/ranges.html

Please, can you turn this into a Kindle ebook? Both the Turkish and English versions?

http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.html
January 15, 2012
On 01/15/2012 12:18 PM, Walter Bright wrote:
> On 1/15/2012 8:00 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote:
>> I am hoping that this is good enough for now:
>>
>> http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/ranges.html
>
> Please, can you turn this into a Kindle ebook? Both the Turkish and
> English versions?
>
> http://ddili.org/ders/d.en/index.html

Thank you. Will do! :)

Ali
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