January 27, 2012
On 1/26/12 5:29 PM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
> On 1/26/12 10:41 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:20:38 -0500, David Nadlinger <see@klickverbot.at>
>> wrote:
>>> Fn + Backspace, on my Macbook Pro.
>>
>> Thank you :) I will try it next time I use my macbook pro. And I forgot
>> about that Fn key! Though that's pretty much standard on most laptops
>> these days.
>>
>> -Steve
>
> Awesome tip, had no idea. Thanks David!

On a lighter note, I didn't bother to look this up either until … guess what … I was tired of using the Explorer context menu for deleting files in my Windows testing VM. ;)

David
January 27, 2012
"Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.76.1327644483.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>> "Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.40.1327562674.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>>>
>>>YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball, marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things?
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ
>>
>> (I don't know why the price there is so high, though. They're only around
>> $35-ish in stores.)
>
> It's that high because Logitech has stopped selling them.

WTF? That blows! Those are the best trackballs in existence!

> They've been
> replaced by this:
> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570
>

Ewww. Bad move on their part. I got one of the wireless ones one time and returned it the next day. It was terrible. Physically it was the same, but it was painfully less smooth and less responsive (and inconsistently so) than every other mouse I've ever used.

>
> The only downside I've found is that when I'm showing someone something on my computer, there's always an awkward moment when they try to move the trackball on the desk and notice that nothing happens. :D

Heh. At the last job I had before going self-employed, I can't tell you how many weird/deer-in-the-headlights reactions I got every time someone would be about to do someting on my computer. Then they'd try to use it and complain they didn't understand how I could use it.

Here's the real funny thing though: They would do that *every* time, without fail, despite the face that I also has a regular mouse plugged in and sitting in plain view. 'Course, this particular group wasn't exactly the brightest bunch to begin with...(I even got posted on TheDailyWTF's Code SOD thanks to that group. My name was anonymized as "Nate" and it was some VB stuff.)


January 27, 2012
On Friday, January 27, 2012 18:08:43 Nick Sabalausky wrote:
> Ewww. Bad move on their part. I got one of the wireless ones one time and returned it the next day. It was terrible. Physically it was the same, but it was painfully less smooth and less responsive (and inconsistently so) than every other mouse I've ever used.

You want bad. They replaced one of the best video game controllers ever
created ( http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-WingMan-Cordless-
Rumblepad-2-4/dp/B00005USQA/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1327706659&sr=1-10
) with these:

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/gaming/controllers

It's a sheer travesty.

> Heh. At the last job I had before going self-employed, I can't tell you how many weird/deer-in-the-headlights reactions I got every time someone would be about to do someting on my computer. Then they'd try to use it and complain they didn't understand how I could use it.

What was funny for me was when I used to use a normal keyboard with dvorak turned on in the OS, someone would come and type something on my computer to show me something, and not only would it come out as gibberish, but we would _both_ be confused as to why. I was so used to using dvorak that I forgot that I was doing anything different, and it took a minute or two for us to figure out what was wrong.

Now, I use a Kinesis Advantage keyboard, so the keyboard alone scares people off, and I have a normal keyboard to the side which is still using qwerty. But it was funny for a while when I used a normal keyboard.

- Jonathan M Davis
January 28, 2012
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
> "Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.76.1327644483.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>>> "Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.40.1327562674.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>>>>
>>>>YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball, marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things?
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ
>>>
>>> (I don't know why the price there is so high, though. They're only around
>>> $35-ish in stores.)
>>
>> It's that high because Logitech has stopped selling them.
>
> WTF? That blows! Those are the best trackballs in existence!
>
>> They've been
>> replaced by this:
>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570
>>
>
> Ewww. Bad move on their part. I got one of the wireless ones one time and returned it the next day. It was terrible. Physically it was the same, but it was painfully less smooth and less responsive (and inconsistently so) than every other mouse I've ever used.

I had the same experience with the original wireless Trackman, but they seem to have genuinely fixed the new one.  I'm using it now, and I think it's better than my TrackMan Silver.
January 28, 2012
"Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.92.1327720688.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>> "Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.76.1327644483.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
>>>> "Andrew Wiley" <wiley.andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.40.1327562674.25230.digitalmars-d@puremagic.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>YES, I'm not the only person alive using a trackball! Thumb-ball, marble, or one of those giant pool-ball things?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ
>>>>
>>>> (I don't know why the price there is so high, though. They're only
>>>> around
>>>> $35-ish in stores.)
>>>
>>> It's that high because Logitech has stopped selling them.
>>
>> WTF? That blows! Those are the best trackballs in existence!
>>
>>> They've been
>>> replaced by this:
>>> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs/devices/wireless-trackball-m570
>>>
>>
>> Ewww. Bad move on their part. I got one of the wireless ones one time and
>> returned it the next day. It was terrible. Physically it was the same,
>> but
>> it was painfully less smooth and less responsive (and inconsistently so)
>> than every other mouse I've ever used.
>
> I had the same experience with the original wireless Trackman, but they seem to have genuinely fixed the new one.  I'm using it now, and I think it's better than my TrackMan Silver.

Hmm, maybe I'll give it a try then next time I need a new one.

Leeme see if I have the names of these wireless ones right:

1. First there was "Wireless Trackman" and it sucked.
2. Then there was "TrackMan Silver" (which was a little better but not
great?).
3. Now there's something new that's called "Wireless Trackman" just like the
first one, but it's good.

?


January 28, 2012
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Nick Sabalausky <a@a.a> wrote:
> Hmm, maybe I'll give it a try then next time I need a new one.
>
> Leeme see if I have the names of these wireless ones right:
>
> 1. First there was "Wireless Trackman" and it sucked.
> 2. Then there was "TrackMan Silver" (which was a little better but not
> great?).
> 3. Now there's something new that's called "Wireless Trackman" just like the
> first one, but it's good.
>
> ?
>

Well, first there was the TrackMan Silver (which was excellent): http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Trackman-Wheel-Optical-Silver/dp/B00005NIMJ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327773586&sr=8-4

Then the Cordless TrackMan (which was terrible): http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-904346-0403-Cordless-TrackMan-Wheel/dp/B00004VUGJ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1327773607&sr=8-2

Then the Wireless Trackball M570 (which I think has surpassed the Silver): http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-910-001799-M570-Wireless-Trackball/dp/B0043T7FXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327773614&sr=8-1


I do love how Logitech's naming has very little continuity.
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